As I mentioned in the post, sometimes even the simplest of thoughts get mis-read and at times manipulated by those who believe their way is the “only” correct way. Sad but true.

I hadn’t read Falstaff’s post (arguing with him would be as good as hitting my head against a wall) till you commented here. And I still haven’t read his post, just the comment section and have to say “hats off “ to you for actually refuting his blocked-up thoughts so brilliantly.

As you suggested – He really needs to socialize a lot more and smell the grass. If one goes by his logic than it’s no crime being a drug addict also after all drugs do provide “out of the world” experience, something one shouldn’t be denied off.

And as for his *supporters* some made sense (at least more than he did) but then there were others too who simply said “yes yes I agree” not because they believed in his thoughts, it was just out of personal grudge against me and/or the ones who stood by me.

Anyway, hoping one day something good will come out from this (now) un-necessary debate.

Well, the post was loud and clear. But people want to fish they’ll fish anything.
cheers

Its easy for these people to sit in front of a computer and punch hard on their keyboards and talk about equality and all but in reality never bother to do anything about it. I wonder how many of these men (and women) would be comfortable in watching their sister, wife or girl friends drunk to the core and walking about mindlessly in the company of strangers. Screw that, I wouldn’t even like it if my brother or boy friend is pissed out of senses.

Its ironic that these people fail to see that it’s not equality its about safety. As you said we must raise our voices against such crimes but on the other hand we have to act responsible as well because there are many who do not walk around with moralistic values like us. The world is full of bad people and that is a reality which cannot be ignored.

But what truly pricks at times is when some people (can’t take names here) whom you know on a personal level, arm up against you for all the wrong reasons. Its not that they are arguing against your point; in fact they clearly understand what you are implying but choose to look the other way because of some sort of personal vendetta or grudge. So much for maturity and non-biased opinions.

Anyway, every bad experience is an experience for whatever its worth.

BTW thanks for your comment.

1) I guess its understandable that you didn’t intend to blame the victims, I wouldn’t expect you to – after all arnt you a feminist? But it is sad that a vast majority of the people seem to think that going out a new year’s eve and getting out on the road to go to the beach is an unwise decision! It certainly seems like an indirect attribution of the blame to the victims. Yes it is generally better to be safe than sorry – but I don’t think that ‘really’ applies here. Post this incident, the police were quoted as saying – ‘keep your wives and sisters at home if you want them safe’ – what do you make of that statement? Your post somehow seems to be resonating that thought. There are plenty of euphemisms in your post to suggest the same. I am not saying that that was your intention, but if very many people seem to be getting that impression from your writing, then don’t you think there could be a chance that something in your post seems to trigger that opinion.

2) As for your point on binge drinking – enough has been said about the rather unnecessary correlation of the 2. Sorry to be pedantic tho, but this line – ‘there were more women literally puking their guts out in comparison to men’ !!!! what’s the idea of comparison there?? Now really what is it that you wish to suggest ??

And like Apu points out, I don’t think any body who disagreed with your pov has anything personal against you (me included), so really one can be graceful in accepting that people have different pov’s (and I don’t mean you weren’t) instead of being too defensive and at times being offensive in the process of being defensive!

This allegation of “blaming the victims” is nothing new in the context of rape incidents. Every time a rape or molestation incident happens, and someone says that women should be extra careful, there seem to be dozens of people (sadly, mostly women) who would jump on that person for blaming the victim.

Just ignore them.

As you said, one can keep trying to bring about an attitudinal change, while at the same time not doing things that would put one at risk right now.

Incidentally, your analogy about drinking+driving and wearing a condom is rather weak Those warnings are forever, no amount of attitudinal change is going to make it safe to drink and drive, or to have unprotected sex!