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		<title>By: Rajivulpe</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-53665</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajivulpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moral Policing, these words in a democratically elected and governed
country like India sounds out of place. In the last few months, there
have been several cases where the self-styled culture protectors have
gone on the rampage and saving their culture in the bargain. I wonder
what culture they talk of, and which culture do we belong to in that
case.

This happened in Meerut, an upscale economically booming town in
Northern Uttar Pradesh &quot;Operation Romeo&quot;..A few innocent couples are
picked up by the police for sitting together in a park..and beaten
repeatedly in front of camera.

Luckily.. right actions were taken..protests held....issue raised in
parliament..the police suspended.

So it seems everything was sorted out as it should be in a democratic country .

Or was it? or does the problem run deeper?

Lets take a trip down memory lane..but in the recent past.

1. A minor is raped by a policeman in the metropolitan city of
Mumbai. The policeman is apprehended (and somehow..it seems..is out on
bail now). But...there is a political organization (I think many would
know which one)...which comes out speaking jargon about the kind of
dresses females should wear. And by some unknown string of
logic...connecting the dresses worn to the criminal mentality.
2. Anna University in Madras..recently banned the wearing of t-shirts
and jeans by girls saying that it distracts studies. Well....only of
the queer mind..I think. (The Vice-Chancellor should really get
himself examined)
3. Khushboo and Sania Mirza are attacked by political organizations
across the spectrum for speaking about safe sex publicly.
Amazing...considering we have the second largest Aids population.
4. A hotel is raided in Chennai because of couples dancing
together.Marriages may be next..beware (will they arrest the bride and
groom for holding hands).
5. Bar Dancers are banned in Mumbai.

All the above may seem unconnected to each other but if we examine it
close..we see the underlying &quot;Moral Policing&quot; involved. There are many
such incidents in the recent past involving many states.

So..why is it that in recent times this &quot;Moral Policing&quot; is on the rise?
Why is it that in this age..where the late Kalpana Chawla could
co-inhibit a space shuttle with male colleagues..is the wearing of
T-shirts and Jeans offensive?  When was the law changed to include
dancing as an offense? How come we can accept a female as de-facto
prime minister..but turn against them when they talk about reducing
Aids by adopting safer sex in this country?
But..the most important fact remains..why are all these charges and
tirades being directed against women? And why are the women
organizations keeping mum on this issue and not going to court or
staging massive protests?

&quot;One man&#039;s food can be a poison to another.&quot;

India is changing fast. And it is changing at a faster rate socially.
However the change is not even along the spectra of society. The
younger lot, who give a damn about politics, have discovered new
independence in terms of wealth and opportunity. And the older lot and
the ones left behind, who are active politically, have not been able
to digest the rapid changes.

The woman, who till now had the role of homemaker, has discovered new
found financial independence and many young girls have started to
believe and realize that they can be as independent as a man. Thus the
young girl of today instead of helping out in kitchen prefers to go
for an  &quot;unwind&quot; with friends without time restrictions, a domain held
previously only by the boys of the home. With the advent of internet
and TV, she has discovered doors which probably she never knew
existed.

The male of the society, previously the keeper of social and economic
duties, is being ruffled. He, who for such a long time, could script
the story and direct the proceedings is suddenly finding himself
alone. He is keen to hold onto this bastion. The other females of the
society who feel deprived of this change are not willing to let others
enjoy this new found independence and are desperate to bring them into
the structure in which they had for long suffered.
However, the thorn which probably pricks the most is the new found
sexual independence enjoyed by the young breed of girls . The fact
that they can choose and have the ability, knowledge and resources to
charter their way of life is a bitter pill for the old zealots to
follow. The sexual independence and dominance, once the sole purview
of the male (and primarily responsible for India heading towards being
the &quot;AIDS&quot; capital of the world), is being challenged. That this is
affront to his male hood is being projected by him as an affront to
social customs (w.r.t. the Tamil culture issue raised during Khushboo
debate.Note:Tamil Nadu has the second highest incidence of Aids in
India). And the womanhood, eager to deprive the young, are following
him blindly. Thus leading to the &quot;Moral Policing&quot; of the youth.Its a
sad fact that the people who are politically active belong to the
category who have refused to accept these changes and want things to
remain as they are either because of fear of losing the dominance
(males) or because of jealous intentions (females). The younger lot
who are living these changes and are probably the most productive of
Indians, contributing to its economic upheaval, are disgusted with
politics and want to have no part of it. The fact that exciting
opportunities exist beyond the borders of India also makes them lax in
regard to taking action against the &quot;lack of freedom&quot; in the so-called
&quot;democratic&quot; India.

And all this contributes to the victories of the old guard hellbent on
resisting changes and imposing so-called &quot;Moral Policing&quot;.

But that does not mean that the old guard would be winning forever. As
seen in the Meerut incident the young people were out on the streets
which forced the authorities to take action. Its only a matter of time
before a change of guard happens. The wait is on for the straw which
would break the camels back. I just hope it is sooner rather than
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moral Policing, these words in a democratically elected and governed<br />
country like India sounds out of place. In the last few months, there<br />
have been several cases where the self-styled culture protectors have<br />
gone on the rampage and saving their culture in the bargain. I wonder<br />
what culture they talk of, and which culture do we belong to in that<br />
case.</p>
<p>This happened in Meerut, an upscale economically booming town in<br />
Northern Uttar Pradesh &#8220;Operation Romeo&#8221;..A few innocent couples are<br />
picked up by the police for sitting together in a park..and beaten<br />
repeatedly in front of camera.</p>
<p>Luckily.. right actions were taken..protests held&#8230;.issue raised in<br />
parliament..the police suspended.</p>
<p>So it seems everything was sorted out as it should be in a democratic country .</p>
<p>Or was it? or does the problem run deeper?</p>
<p>Lets take a trip down memory lane..but in the recent past.</p>
<p>1. A minor is raped by a policeman in the metropolitan city of<br />
Mumbai. The policeman is apprehended (and somehow..it seems..is out on<br />
bail now). But&#8230;there is a political organization (I think many would<br />
know which one)&#8230;which comes out speaking jargon about the kind of<br />
dresses females should wear. And by some unknown string of<br />
logic&#8230;connecting the dresses worn to the criminal mentality.<br />
2. Anna University in Madras..recently banned the wearing of t-shirts<br />
and jeans by girls saying that it distracts studies. Well&#8230;.only of<br />
the queer mind..I think. (The Vice-Chancellor should really get<br />
himself examined)<br />
3. Khushboo and Sania Mirza are attacked by political organizations<br />
across the spectrum for speaking about safe sex publicly.<br />
Amazing&#8230;considering we have the second largest Aids population.<br />
4. A hotel is raided in Chennai because of couples dancing<br />
together.Marriages may be next..beware (will they arrest the bride and<br />
groom for holding hands).<br />
5. Bar Dancers are banned in Mumbai.</p>
<p>All the above may seem unconnected to each other but if we examine it<br />
close..we see the underlying &#8220;Moral Policing&#8221; involved. There are many<br />
such incidents in the recent past involving many states.</p>
<p>So..why is it that in recent times this &#8220;Moral Policing&#8221; is on the rise?<br />
Why is it that in this age..where the late Kalpana Chawla could<br />
co-inhibit a space shuttle with male colleagues..is the wearing of<br />
T-shirts and Jeans offensive?  When was the law changed to include<br />
dancing as an offense? How come we can accept a female as de-facto<br />
prime minister..but turn against them when they talk about reducing<br />
Aids by adopting safer sex in this country?<br />
But..the most important fact remains..why are all these charges and<br />
tirades being directed against women? And why are the women<br />
organizations keeping mum on this issue and not going to court or<br />
staging massive protests?</p>
<p>&#8220;One man&#8217;s food can be a poison to another.&#8221;</p>
<p>India is changing fast. And it is changing at a faster rate socially.<br />
However the change is not even along the spectra of society. The<br />
younger lot, who give a damn about politics, have discovered new<br />
independence in terms of wealth and opportunity. And the older lot and<br />
the ones left behind, who are active politically, have not been able<br />
to digest the rapid changes.</p>
<p>The woman, who till now had the role of homemaker, has discovered new<br />
found financial independence and many young girls have started to<br />
believe and realize that they can be as independent as a man. Thus the<br />
young girl of today instead of helping out in kitchen prefers to go<br />
for an  &#8220;unwind&#8221; with friends without time restrictions, a domain held<br />
previously only by the boys of the home. With the advent of internet<br />
and TV, she has discovered doors which probably she never knew<br />
existed.</p>
<p>The male of the society, previously the keeper of social and economic<br />
duties, is being ruffled. He, who for such a long time, could script<br />
the story and direct the proceedings is suddenly finding himself<br />
alone. He is keen to hold onto this bastion. The other females of the<br />
society who feel deprived of this change are not willing to let others<br />
enjoy this new found independence and are desperate to bring them into<br />
the structure in which they had for long suffered.<br />
However, the thorn which probably pricks the most is the new found<br />
sexual independence enjoyed by the young breed of girls . The fact<br />
that they can choose and have the ability, knowledge and resources to<br />
charter their way of life is a bitter pill for the old zealots to<br />
follow. The sexual independence and dominance, once the sole purview<br />
of the male (and primarily responsible for India heading towards being<br />
the &#8220;AIDS&#8221; capital of the world), is being challenged. That this is<br />
affront to his male hood is being projected by him as an affront to<br />
social customs (w.r.t. the Tamil culture issue raised during Khushboo<br />
debate.Note:Tamil Nadu has the second highest incidence of Aids in<br />
India). And the womanhood, eager to deprive the young, are following<br />
him blindly. Thus leading to the &#8220;Moral Policing&#8221; of the youth.Its a<br />
sad fact that the people who are politically active belong to the<br />
category who have refused to accept these changes and want things to<br />
remain as they are either because of fear of losing the dominance<br />
(males) or because of jealous intentions (females). The younger lot<br />
who are living these changes and are probably the most productive of<br />
Indians, contributing to its economic upheaval, are disgusted with<br />
politics and want to have no part of it. The fact that exciting<br />
opportunities exist beyond the borders of India also makes them lax in<br />
regard to taking action against the &#8220;lack of freedom&#8221; in the so-called<br />
&#8220;democratic&#8221; India.</p>
<p>And all this contributes to the victories of the old guard hellbent on<br />
resisting changes and imposing so-called &#8220;Moral Policing&#8221;.</p>
<p>But that does not mean that the old guard would be winning forever. As<br />
seen in the Meerut incident the young people were out on the streets<br />
which forced the authorities to take action. Its only a matter of time<br />
before a change of guard happens. The wait is on for the straw which<br />
would break the camels back. I just hope it is sooner rather than<br />
later.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-47465</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi,
Officially, we do not have clear-cut freedom of expression in this country. That, and the Indian Penal Code which allows your arrest for causing offence, means in practice there is no freedom of expression. 
Many who support control over expression have no idea about the consequences of not allowing full expression. And they are in majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakshi,<br />
Officially, we do not have clear-cut freedom of expression in this country. That, and the Indian Penal Code which allows your arrest for causing offence, means in practice there is no freedom of expression.<br />
Many who support control over expression have no idea about the consequences of not allowing full expression. And they are in majority.</p>
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		<title>By: shadows</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-40679</link>
		<dc:creator>shadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi,

Well... yeah. You are right. They should have been arrested. 

Now, a little off topic. This is one such incident that we are looking at. Let us look at 10 such incidents. Whats the reason these things are happening? And, why is the public not against them overwhelmingly? Frankly, I do feel offended when I see such obscene art, even though I am much less religious. In normal times, I would not have bothered much. I can elaborate further, but it will become too long a rant.

I say again, the problem is not the paintings , the problem is the pseudo-secularism and hypocrisy that go with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakshi,</p>
<p>Well&#8230; yeah. You are right. They should have been arrested. </p>
<p>Now, a little off topic. This is one such incident that we are looking at. Let us look at 10 such incidents. Whats the reason these things are happening? And, why is the public not against them overwhelmingly? Frankly, I do feel offended when I see such obscene art, even though I am much less religious. In normal times, I would not have bothered much. I can elaborate further, but it will become too long a rant.</p>
<p>I say again, the problem is not the paintings , the problem is the pseudo-secularism and hypocrisy that go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Saakshi O. Juneja</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-40667</link>
		<dc:creator>Saakshi O. Juneja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 08:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shadows : Fine, if I go by what you say that it was alright to arrest Chandramohan...then don&#039;t you think all those VHP goons along with Neeraj Jain should also have been arrested, considering the fact that they did indeed damage college property along with many other things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shadows : Fine, if I go by what you say that it was alright to arrest Chandramohan&#8230;then don&#8217;t you think all those VHP goons along with Neeraj Jain should also have been arrested, considering the fact that they did indeed damage college property along with many other things?</p>
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		<title>By: shadows</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-40666</link>
		<dc:creator>shadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 08:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Sakshi, 

I think it was allright to arrest Chandramohan. To tell you frankly, the problem is not painting Gods in the nude or something. The problem is discrimination and pseudo-secularism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Sakshi, </p>
<p>I think it was allright to arrest Chandramohan. To tell you frankly, the problem is not painting Gods in the nude or something. The problem is discrimination and pseudo-secularism.</p>
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		<title>By: shadows</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-40664</link>
		<dc:creator>shadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 08:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrghh.. Khajuraho - not again. Lets destroy those statues and we wont have it being dragged in any discussion on obscene art.

Now, I did see that &quot;work of art&quot; by that student. It was/is obscene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrghh.. Khajuraho &#8211; not again. Lets destroy those statues and we wont have it being dragged in any discussion on obscene art.</p>
<p>Now, I did see that &#8220;work of art&#8221; by that student. It was/is obscene.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-39837</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 20:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Law decides what can do and not - I was being specific to your comment. By your free world I was referring to the US, more specifically assasination of John Lennon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Law decides what can do and not &#8211; I was being specific to your comment. By your free world I was referring to the US, more specifically assasination of John Lennon.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhinav</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-39815</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhinav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 18:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when did the moral police become legislators?

And as for &quot;my&quot; free world,why don&#039;t you like it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when did the moral police become legislators?</p>
<p>And as for &#8220;my&#8221; free world,why don&#8217;t you like it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-39776</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 15:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Abhinav that particular group of people are called legislators and they are in every country. If you want to go down to discussion of what is freedom and what we perceive as freedom we can be here for ages.

A lot of the major issues in the present and past world are related to religion. What were these so called crusades if not genocide? John Lennon I think got it right - &quot;Imagine...&quot; but look what your free world did to him or wait a minute was it a BJP/VHP member? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Abhinav that particular group of people are called legislators and they are in every country. If you want to go down to discussion of what is freedom and what we perceive as freedom we can be here for ages.</p>
<p>A lot of the major issues in the present and past world are related to religion. What were these so called crusades if not genocide? John Lennon I think got it right &#8211; &#8220;Imagine&#8230;&#8221; but look what your free world did to him or wait a minute was it a BJP/VHP member? <img src='http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Abhinav</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2007/05/15/moral-policing-vs-you-me/comment-page-1/#comment-39667</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhinav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 07:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez,I am such a racist pig ;).Kidding,kidding,no offence taken and none intended.And yes,I stand corrected.They are Republicans and not conservatives.However if I remember correctly,the republicans are the conservative type rallying against things like gay marraige and live-in relationships.

What I am trying to say is,why are a particular group of people deciding what is right and wrong for us?Isn&#039;t that up to an individual to make his/her own choice.The country allows a person to choose any religion,it allows free speech,but somehow some people think that religion holds more importance(which might be the case,but I think otherwise).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez,I am such a racist pig <img src='http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .Kidding,kidding,no offence taken and none intended.And yes,I stand corrected.They are Republicans and not conservatives.However if I remember correctly,the republicans are the conservative type rallying against things like gay marraige and live-in relationships.</p>
<p>What I am trying to say is,why are a particular group of people deciding what is right and wrong for us?Isn&#8217;t that up to an individual to make his/her own choice.The country allows a person to choose any religion,it allows free speech,but somehow some people think that religion holds more importance(which might be the case,but I think otherwise).</p>
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