Indu Jalali : When the Brave Have To Run For Cover
On January 23, 1996, he was seen entering her home in South Delhi by several witnesses. Hours later her battered body was found - she had been beaten mercilessly, with multiple wounds (her post postmortem detailed 19). She had been raped. And, ultimately, she had been strangled to death.
An innocent woman raped and murdered for no fault of hers, a trial commenced against the accused, which wasn’t an easy one. Leading to the release of the implicated.
Further, thanks to Priyadarshini’s close friend Indu Jalali, the case was reopened and ended in December 1999 on a positive note, thank god for that!
In today’s day and age there are not many who would go out of their way for others, not many to give up their time, energy for the benefit of anyone else but themselves. Forget others, now days many even think twice to stand up for themselves. I mean the way we work around our lives; it’s easier to give into the system rather than changing it.
Opposing the immoral and fighting for the virtuous is not an easy task, especially in a corrupt world like ours. Indu Jalali did and is doing just that! She has been wholly responsible in achieving justice for her friend Priyadarshini and in voicing the rightful for others in similar circumstances like Jessica Lall and Nitish Katara murder trials.
Sadly, practicing the moral in life has a huge price to pay. And Indu Jalali, the woman who fought for others today is terrified for her own safety.
Indu Jalali, Priyadarshini Mattoo’s childhood friend, who fought to bring Mattoo’s killer Santosh Singh to justice, is running scared. Jalali, who has emerged as a voice for the victims of influential people, such as Mattoo, Nitish Katara, Jessica Lall and the murdered kids of Nithari, continues to receive threats.
It’s agonizing for me to see someone like Indu go through this kind of trauma. Fearing for ones life on a daily basis, probably at times even being confined to the four walls of her home is completely disastrous. To make matters worse our very worthy police force and government don’t seem to be doing anything about it. Instead of ensuring security thereby strengthening her goal for justice, the new Ghaziabad SSP is only making lame excuses and twiddling his thumbs.
As always, we again witness the righteous been suppressed, and the affluent walking away content. No encouragement provided where justice is concerned, only a road full of blockages at every point. This is the reason that many others who have the courage and determination to fight, refuse to come forward into the open. Involvement is dreaded!
I sincerely hope that within this crazy mess, Indu doesn’t let go of her vision. She should keep up her battle against the evil in society.
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Jan 27th, 2007 at 7:13 am | #
Truth still remains hidden. Its not always that faces that have caught media attention deserve all the credit for the work.
People who really want to work, continue without thinking of geting any credit…
Others have a disease named Publicity Seeking Disorder…
Anyways, It was not Indu Jalali but the entire team of Justice For Priyadarshini Mattoo who led this campaign…Thanks…
Jan 27th, 2007 at 7:27 am | #
Mr. Aditya - There is no denying that the victory in Priyadarshini case was solely cause of “combined” effort; be it Mattoo friends, family, media and the Indian public. But from my knowledge, it was Ms. Indu who was the front face of the Mattoo family.
The above post is not only about Ms. Indu but many others who bare the brunt just because they take a stand for others. Had it been any other individual from the Mattoo campaign or the Lall or the Katara, I would have done the same.
As for your allegation against Ms. Indu, well it is something that only you are aware off. Maybe you need to be a bit more clear and state some facts.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 6:10 am | #
Dear Sakshi,
I am greatful that after Vitusha of Miday -day you are the second person to stand by me .I am very very thanful and obliged for this gesture of yours.God bless you and may you succeed in your endeavour of bringing out the truth.
Regarding Aditya Raj all i can say is that God bless you too.I dont blame you fro feeling like this but remeber what Dr.Ajay Chrangoo told you when you said similar things to him about me …………….
Truth always Prevails and no one can supress it .
Sakshi thanks once again and best of luck
Jan 29th, 2007 at 7:40 am | #
Sakshi the irony of our country is that people who stand up for truth are always been crucified.So is Indu. This lady has lot of metal and thats why some people cannot take it espescially those who are still in diapers. We should all get our acts together and come forward for Indu. What is happening to her can happen to any one of us tomorrow. In fact no one will come forward and fight for justice, if this is the treatment that Brave people like Indu get.So let us strengthen her belief by showing her our support and negate all distractions like Aditya Raj Kaul.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 8:33 am | #
I am really amazed to know that people can oppose lady like Indu jalali.She is my coleague and it is my pleasure to say that we are proud to have her in our organisation. In fact she is the pride of our company and our company has nominated her for the highest Bravery award. I know how hard she has worked day and night for giving Justice to her friend. We all have seen her working for it.She is much above such petty issues.
Who so ever has any doubt regarding her crediblity ,I suggest just get in touch with Mr.Matoo. He will answer all your queries as to who is who?.( By the way i have met this great man in our office only when he had come to meet Indu).
Kindly stop maligning a great human being like Indu otherwise people will stop trusting TRUTH
Jan 29th, 2007 at 8:39 am | #
Pls Note : The last two comments are by the same person. IP add : 220.225.0.52.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 8:57 am | #
No, The comments are from two different people in the same office.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 9:16 am | #
Aditya sez —
Anyways, It was not Indu Jalali but the entire team of Justice For Priyadarshini Mattoo who led this campaign…Thanks…
Indu sez —
Sakshi,
Whoa..
LOLz…
So now, after poor Priyadarshini Mattoo has got justice she deserved, I see the typical NGO wallahs jumping over each other to claim credit. After all, the one who gets the credit has a stellar future in the NGO industry.
Indu does seem to me like another Brinda karrot, Nafisa Ali or Teesta (yechhh) in the making - a secular hypocrite types. And Aditya doesnt seem so trustworthy either. Jealous, eh?
Indu and Aditya,
I dont trust either of you. Dont you think you would do much better if you are united in your purpose. Dont you think you should be .. err celebrating the happy verdict, rather than indulging in cheap publicity gimmicks. Maybe many people, incl I, would trust you then.
Dont just make the mistake of assuming that you have popular support, based on the number of pretty social butterflies sweettalking you over cocktails. The people who run the economy, the engineers, the managers, the doctors, the people who run factories, students, people like me… they dont trust you. I did send an SMS to a news channel for Jessica Lall, but I dont trust you either.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 9:50 am | #
Thanks for all the comments…I expected such a anger to my sudden reaction to Sakshi’s post. I would like not to continue this debate. But would still like to make a few things clear. I still stand by my statement that it was the entire team of “Justice For Priyadarshini” + Priyadarshini’s Parents + United Students group of Delhi which led this entire campaign. Facts are in front of everyone, I don’t need to clear it again and again. Yes, Indu was also a part of Justice For Priyadarshini group for some time and I Thank her for all the help.
It would be still better if someone asks Priyadarshini’s parents that who started this campaign and who was with them till the end.
Someone said that Indu has done something for Nithari. Yes, I completely agree. She had gone to Nithari to pose with a canddle for photographers. I don’t see anything positive in this.
The last comment by “Shadows” is a very clear cut reaction. Just to clear that this is no fight between NGO waalahs…
Lastly, I’m just 17 years old student of Delhi University. I don’t have time to fight or argue with a unfit lady in late thirties.
I wrote all this, so that everyone is on the same page…
Hope better sense prevails…
Regards
Aditya Raj Kaul
http://www.kauladityaraj.blogspot.com
Jan 29th, 2007 at 10:56 am | #
Mannat - I can’t understand your post. I respected her by Thanking her and expressed whatever I felt, I don’t think I’ve gone overboard.
If she has any security threat then she should approach the Police for protection. To my knowledge through media, she has been provided with adequate security.
Its however strange why only she is facing so called security threat, what about different other common individuals who were as well active with similar campaigns.
Mr. Mannat - I think you need to improve your writing skills before targeting me as unfit. Go and get your facts right.
I’ve all the data,facts and documents of the entire “Justice For Priyadarshini” campaign, because I was one of the few who were incharge of the entire campaign. So, I don’t really need to worry.
Just ask Indu, what else has she done in this campaign apart from coming in front of media….lol…At times its so funny.
It was the entire group which did a two month research on the Mattoo case before starting this campaign. This lady came only when media attention was involved…
But, as I said facts and truth will always remain…
I think this will be my last post on this useless topic. This discussion is heading nowhere.
Regards
Aditya Raj Kaul
Jan 29th, 2007 at 11:27 am | #
Some people don’t have name but views so here you are
Do you think every one here is posting using their real names.. Or that your name is for real..
And would you please stick to the point rather than pointing out my lack of name?
(well, I choose to remain nameless, because I have no identity. It goes a lot deeper, and I am too lazy to type it all out)
You having trust on them or not doesn’t count. You are a programmer and seems new to IT world take care before commenting.
Thats where you lose. It does count. Dont be happy with the number of SMSes you get on TV. Its issue based support, and not a support of your politics. Dont we all know how the politics of NGOs work? Isnt the discussion going on here indicative of that? I wonder how may votes would Medha Patkar get if she goes to an SMS poll with any news channel. My guess would be right if half of the SMSes come from her own cronies.
And its not just me, many of my friends and colleagues are a lot more cynical than I am. Just that not everybody blogs. More so, not everyone comments.
I have gone into arguments with NGO wallahs distributing pamphlets and asking for donations. They dont have answers for the simplest of questions. Someone with the slightest of intuitions can see that they are doing it for the money.
Whatever I do to earn my living is another matter.
Also, given the kind of language you are using, you dont seem much older than Aditya
And thanks Aditya, for pulling it out into the open.
Sakshi,
This is turning out to be another warfornews blog, going by the kind of people who are commenting.. What about starting a new blog called.. WarForNGOs…
Jan 29th, 2007 at 12:38 pm | #
I have been following the priyadarshini mattoo case as an indian and I know what efforts ms.Indu has put in to give justice to her friend.people like Aditya are very common who under frustration can say and write anything
But there are people out there who can see the truth. I dont think we need anyone to tell us who did what?.
Ms.Indu has done a commendable job and she is still continuing with it. Poor aditya cannot touch her or reach to her level.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 3:37 pm | #
Yep. True. In fact, it seems like “what you convey” does not matter at all.
Like is the case with most self proclaimed intellectuals.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 3:45 pm | #
Waste of time.
Less time in work, more in chattering.
No one should assume they have public support….very rightly said by some one in this forum.
If you want to do social work then know its first rule
” Neki kar aur Dariya mai daal”
Silence is like silver and if practised it turns into gold, have the contesting parties ( unfortunate) not heard it in chaste Kashmiri.
Regards
SKaul
Jan 29th, 2007 at 4:26 pm | #
Shadows - Dude, this ain’t my post…it’s GaZZals. So would be better if you address your comments here to her.
As for this blog turning into war zone…should I really be complaining???
Jan 29th, 2007 at 6:20 pm | #
Dear Indu and Aditya, you are both pride of our nation. The work you have done in the Justice for Priyadarshini campaign is exemplary. Please do not fight with each other now. The convict in the case has already moved to the supreme court, so our efforts should be channelised towards fighting the case in the supreme court. This infighting will result in our defeat, so please think thrice before you speak anything in public. You may have differences of opinion, but why should you make them public.
Jan 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pm | #
dear friends,
whats all this haggling for, if its for the quantum of sound bites a person is attracting in media then let me assure you guys that its one of the most distasteful media today in our country.
as for the efforts put by all and sundry for the fight against system in priyadarshini’s case , hats off to all who stood against the crime against humanity.one thing which has attracted my attention is this gutsy lady “INDU” who has not stopped with high court verdict of priya but carried it further for Nithari victims too when others were ignoring the fate of inncocent kids who were done away by some highly insane but influential group of people and who knows what lies beneath.if Indu has taken up the issue and wants to highlight the need for public participation in exerting pressure on govt. for fair investigation and trial then I dont see any harm.In the process if she is being threatened by some interested parties and branded as publicity seeker by our own public then that would be tragic.
The time has come for all like minded people to atleast extend moral support to a person or group of persons like Indu who are taking cudgels against system and sacrificing their own personal lives for what they see as gross injustice committed.
Its really heartening when sitting in Dubai I can still have faith in Indians like Indu.My best wishes to her and if someone thinks that she is doing for publicity then i welcome her to join even politics and try cleansing that hell of a Indian system so that we all can start having some faith in that system too.
regards
sabu
Jan 30th, 2007 at 5:17 am | #
Dear Blog Owner,
I am sure you would acknowledge that technology comes with a draw back. As I myslef am a blog writer ( http://www.thekashmir.wordpress.com ), i know what shortfalls the blog carry.
I had this feeling that Blog writers would be intelligent enough to understand how things may work,but i am dissappointed.
Readers have jumped to conclusion and passed verdicts.
Has anyone cared to confirm from Aditya Raj Kaul, if he indeed wrote the comment ? I for myslef can write my name as Aditya Raj Kaul and post a comment.
I know Aditya and am petty sure that he would not have commented.
I work for a a group which fought a case for “Fake Mail ID Posting ” case in court and you all must have read the historic judgement which appeared in HT yesterday.
I would request the blog owner to kindly send me the IP address of all the people who have commented , so as I would launch my own probe and hopefully reveal the truth with evidence.
My mail ID is pawan.durani@gmail.com
So i request all weel meaning and respected readers not to fall for the mischief done by someone who may be hell bent upong creating a divide.
Who knows it may be a work of someone against whom both of them jointly fought ?
Jan 30th, 2007 at 5:55 am | #
Hey Pawan,
You raised a good point. Let’s find out who is writing in the name of Aditya if he is not. Just a suggestion if you can asks Aditya to post a comment here himself and cast a separate mail to owner (GaZZal/Sakshi) to commend the comments here (I am suggesting you coz you seem close to Aditya). This will help us when we will approach to some investigating agencies. If you can see my earlier comment I have quoted “Both Aditya and Indu have done fantastic job and why there is the divide now?” but no reply to that ever since and some of my comments have been deleted
too. Where is the divide now? Not only we but I think as a responsible citizen it is our moral duty to expose evil in the society and back all those who stand for truth and justice. The entire nation should know the truth.
GaZZal: If you can display the all mail ids who so ever have commented on this post “in the public interests”. As Pawan seems sure that Aditya didn’t commented, we need to find out the truth now. If it’s required we will take it further and file a formal complaint in this respect.
…Mannat
“We were together.”
Jan 30th, 2007 at 5:56 am | #
Well said Pawan, I hope better sense prevails and the real people behind this “laugh riot” are exposed with your help.
As far as “Attention Disorders” go, what credibility can media promoted personalities have when Media itself is at a nadir as far as credibilities are concerned. The blog writer above is gaining hits in this acrimonious battle of two personalities. “Kissi ki ghar jal raha hai aur log haath sek rahain hain” will not be too far away from truth even if it be a case of Formented Chaos. Both the personalities in question have done some good work and instead of resting on laurels or fighting for them, lets look at the fresh challenges because “Manzilain Aur Bhi Hain”
Jan 30th, 2007 at 6:07 am | #
Mr. Pawan - As far as Aditya’s comments are concerned I think they are genuine. Since he has exchanged a few emails with the Blog’s Owner Sakshi. But then again there are always certain uncertainties, so one me never know whether it is actually Aditya or not, or Mannat or not, Arti Kaul or not…
But yes If I do get an email from Aditya (Valid proof that it is Aditya himself) stating the he hasn’t placed any comment on this post, I shall get them scraped up.
And as for displaying email ids, sorry it’s against the blog’s policy.
Jan 30th, 2007 at 6:18 am | #
Sad to see two heroes at logger heads, can publicity take us to the level where it would be difficult for CommonMan judge between “Culprit” and “Crusader”.
At the end of the fight I was proud that my community has produced two “heroes” but I sadden to know that at end of the day. They no heroes just ordinary humans, victim of Jealously, and fake publicity.
trust _ At this point of time I prescribe them to read “Bhagwat Gita” Chapter 12, if they still feel proud of there roots.
With Love and Care
Vikram Bhat
Jan 30th, 2007 at 6:20 am | #
Mannat,
I know Aditya as well as Indu.
What i meant was let us discover who actually wrote ? I have not spoken to Aditya since last 15 days and I am not sure if he knows this blog as well. [ With all due respect to the Blog Owner ]
To be honest, i am a net addict and i had not known of this blog till i was forwarded a mail by someone about this controversy.
I am not absolving Aditya either, but since i kow the pitfalls….i feel we need to give some benefit of doubt . As it is extremely easy to impersonate anyone while commenting on this blog. This site does not need pre approved registration for posting a comment.
Anyone else may do it as well and even impersonate Indu as well.
What surprises me is that even if Aditya would have written the comments, he would have surely known that the comments would do him no good. Similarly a mature person like Indu may (should) not have jumped and immedietly reacted and quoted someone.
As for as lodging a complaint, i feel that it may not be a case worth while. The best we can achieve among oursleves is to reveal the identity.
So, let us stop Aditya bashing and not be impuslive and try to discover what may be a mischief ?
Who knows ……. we have people who believe in the old British policy of “Divide & Rule “
As Demostheness has said “The sower of the seed is assuredly the author of the whole harvest of mischief.”
Pawan
http://www.thekashmir.wordpress.com
Jan 30th, 2007 at 7:53 am | #
Pawan,
…Mannat
“United we stand, divided we fall.â€
Jan 30th, 2007 at 8:11 am | #
Hello Friends,
My Name Is Karan Bhat …. I know Aditya Raj Kaul From Orkut …. And Indu Too … But From Last Two Months …. I know Indu very Well …. and her family …. She Is A gr8 Lady … Who Is Fighting For Justic … Not herself .. but for other ….. I Am Very Sorry to say but i was very upset and feeling very bad … after reading such comments from aditya raj kaul ….. i want to ask aditya rak kaul a quest. how many times indu was talking to media … and how many times u were talking media while Justice for Priyadarshini case … i will say aditya raj kaul ….. i have seen him every time on NDTV talking about this case …. he never says any other name in front of media … but indu was talking everyones name in front of media even aditya raj kauls name ….. and tell me one more thing …. Mr. Aditya Raj Kaul …. there were many other people also involed in the case …. like aditya tikoo … but he was never ever in the front of media …. he has never raise a question against u or againt indu … then y r rasing a question agaist indu…..u both won the fight for Justice for Priyadarshini …. u don’t even stand anywhere … if u stand alone … it’s a effort of a team …. Ok Tell me one thing … when Indu did a candel light march at jantar manat for nithari victims …. at the same day u also did it at jantar mantar.. tell me franklly how many time u have been to nithari …how many times u have meet with the nithari victims … who many time …. leave it ……i know how many time indu were there in nithari ….. Try To Be what u r …. i was thinking u are a good human being … i still think u r a good human begin … but having very wrong thinking ….try to change ur thinking …. Rember One Thing Mr. Aditya Raj Kaul ” Never Raise A Question Againts AnyOne …. Ask The Same Question To YourSelf … And If U get The Right Answer … Then Ask The Question To AnyOne …. ”
I am Sorry If Any One Got Hurt While Reading This Comment .. I am Sorry ….
I Also Got Hurted When I read some worst comments Againts Such A Gr8 Person …
Thank You …
Karan Bhat
Jan 30th, 2007 at 8:42 am | #
Mannat,
I would surely speak to Aditya ,probably today evening. Someone told me that he is out for some shooting since morning as he is likely to be awarded for youth activism or some gallentary.
BTW , the “so called Aditya” wrote that it was not alone ms Indu alone but entire J4P who was involved
Who knows the “real Aditya” may not even be knowing about all this and about this whole controversy ?
BTW , the so called Aditya wrote that it was not alone ms Indu alone but entire J4P who was involved
Blog Owner….kindly improve the background as text is hardly readable…..
Jan 30th, 2007 at 11:11 am | #
Good as a responsible citizen it becomes all the important and necessary for the blog owner to tell us if it is Aditya or not. I hope u all understand that as an Indian Citizen it is our moral and social duty to help in maintaining the sanctity of any award. It should not go in to wrong hands. Time to join hands once again.
Jan 30th, 2007 at 12:11 pm | #
Both Adiutya and Indu have done great service to the cases of Matoo and Lal families both deserve Kudos. Even Sabrinas participation has done great .
Indu is the ‘Star Daughter of Vitasta’ and deserves only decent words and not vieled insiuations.
Both Aditya and Indu should close ranks and open up for more challenging tasks ahead.
Love and Blessings to both
Prof Mohan K Muju
NOIDA
Jan 30th, 2007 at 1:44 pm | #
the fact remains that priyadarshini’s soul got justice by the efforts of both adityaraj and indu and the team..they did their duty as citizens.
as i read the comments i realised that in a haste all seemed to have gone on a rampage against adityaraj…well none of us seem to know the other side of the story so let us not speculate as to who is mature and who in reality is in diapers..
the message we need to take is the conviction they all worked with and stood by their belief… their srife is their personal issue and let us kindly leave it at that.
warm regards,
pooja shali
Jan 30th, 2007 at 6:08 pm | #
To the blog owner all i can say is that all the people who have bloged seem either favouring or opposing people in question but nobody has really understood the reason for the topic.The issue out here is to know about the fact as to what happens to people in our country, who raise their voices against high profile people.This is really sorry state of affairs that instead of supporting the justice we in the process are endorsing injustice ourselves because if tomorrow God forbid any such thing takes place with any of us we for sure will be left alone to fight it out.
Kindly give a good thought to it………….
Jan 30th, 2007 at 6:29 pm | #
Dear Indu,
I apologise for the content of my posts which has hurt you. I agree that we may have some differences but it was my mistake to speak publicly. I hope as an elder sister you will take it in a positive way and forget the past. I appreciate your work for various causes. In no way have I anything personally against you.
Best of Luck with your various campaigns…
I agree with you that - “Truth always Prevails and no one can supress it”
I’ll always be there for any kind of help…
“For all concrned enough to respond to the post” -
I’m sorry for hurting your sentiments. As they say work speaks for the person. I was known for my work and will try my best to work for the welfare of people and the country in future. Thanks for showing faith…
For Sakshi and Gazzal - Thanks for taking a neutral stand inspite of the fact that I was at fault. But its been another learning experience for me today. A man learns from his mistakes…
You guys have an amazing blog and great writing skills !
Gud Luck !
With Best Wishes
Aditya Raj Kaul
http://www.kauladityaraj.blogspot.com
Jan 30th, 2007 at 7:05 pm | #
well said ashwani.. we really missed the point here….
and yup the life of witnesses is in indeed in trouble, and the indian government needs to put forth some sort of programme for their protection.. the witness in nitish katara case too has been living a life of hell.
and indu, adityaraj, and others working in anonymity for society..we are all so proud of you..!!!
Jan 31st, 2007 at 5:08 pm | #
Dear Aditya:
You have made us (community) proud. It is difficult to accept mistake and it is more difficult to apologise and that too publicly.
One needs guts to do it.
Aditya, your step definitely shows that your future as an social activist has no limits and you have the leadership qualities which are going to help u in future.
And for Indu: I think u have played ur role well during PMatto case and i think we must encourage youngesters and i hope u will do the same and keep Aditya guiding in his endeavour to help the community. You are elder to him and need to show love and respect to Aditya.
Thanx and Regards
-Veer
Feb 1st, 2007 at 5:33 am | #
Karan Bhatt,
Firstly we are here to talk about Priyadarshini’s case.So lets not drag the Nithari out here..Dont ask how many times Aditya has visited Nithari & all that ..These all questions doesnt hold good ..Aditya was not knowing Late Priyadarshini Mattoo personally or before the case,even he might not have even knwing her family,but still he has done a remarakble job in achieving the success .You must be knowing Indu for some time now,but being as a core member of Justice for Priyadarshini group ,I very well know Aditya & Indu both…Other members of J4P group has also done a gr8 job,but it was decided that Aditya & Indu would handle the media and would be the face of the media for the case..No doubts about Indu’s part which she has played in Priyadarshini ’s case,but dont even forget that it was Aditya who started the campaign for Justice for Priyadarshini on mass scale..It was his effort which brought NDTV & other media & made 23rd July,2006 event, a milestone in Priyadarshini’s case.
Feb 1st, 2007 at 6:13 am | #
Dear Veer ji and Sanjay ji,
Soo choohe kha ke billi haaj ko chali to uske sabh paap dhul jate hain. I endorse it
Do you know who Aditya Tickoo is and what his contribution has been for J4P campaign and who Dr.Shakti Bhan is and what her contribution has been for the same since the verdict of the lower court came?.
Kindly comment on them also and then we will take it further as to what Aditya and Indu did.
Also let me know that why only Indu was choosen to be the face of media and other then NDTV who brought rest of channels in?.I am sure Media is not so fool to go by just the face value?
Well one more thing i have conveyed to all the major media channels and paper to clear this mess by asking the father itself. So have patince and wait.
Adi
Feb 1st, 2007 at 7:21 am | #
From the series of mails one thing has become obvious that Ms.Indu has done something for delivering the justice.( I wonder how many times Aditya Raj has taken her name ).
Anyways it is a male dominated society and out here someones ego has really been kicked. It becomes very difficult for the Indian man to see the female rising much above him hence the back lash.
I also wonder that if Ms.Jalali was wrong then why media kept on chasing her only?. Is our media so blind if so then i can also say that Aditya Raj is being promoted by NDTV then that is also wrong?. So where does the morality of the media lie and whom should we believe ?.
It is sad and shameful for each one of us that we are personalising the whole topic .As rightly said by Ashwani the issue is as to what happens to the people who stand up for wrong?.None of you have slightest of sensiblity towards it. This shows how selfish we have become in order to prove other person wrong or right?. We all are sailing in the same boat……………………Publicity seekers
Feb 1st, 2007 at 8:18 am | #
@ everyone…
I request everyone not to attack anyone personally. All discussione should be carried in a healthy manner…
@ Neha
I’m sorry but I can only laugh at your post.
I don’t think its a male dominated society anymore. One needs to change his/her mentality if one has to excel. If you continue to say that we are deprived of our rights nothing will happen. Females have done remarkable job in the past and will continue to do so. Females are as equals…I hope you take this in a positive way…
If I did not respect females, I would not have started the “Justice For Priyadarshini” Campaign when I was in Class 12th…
btw why do you think NDTV is promoting me…I have appeared more on CNN-IBN then NDTV…lol..and Media was not running after any individual…Media wants news and whereever they can get it they take it…I was in media because I was following the case very closely with my entire group…
I agree lets not personalise this issue, Lets appreciate the dedication of Shri Chaman Lal Mattoo and entire Justice For Priyadarshini group in the campaign for justice in this case…
@ ADITY (ADI)
whoever you are, you must be a believer of Divide And Rule….Your post is funny and I don’t understand what you want to convey…Aditya Tikoo was a part of Justice For Priyadarshini group and has again done a great job…Why should we now debate on who has worked how much ???…
I know Dr. Shakti Bhan personally…She with Ramesh Handoo, Ramesh Manvati, Kamal Hak, Nancy Kaul etc and all members of Daughters of Vitasta, Panun Kashmir and Kashmiri Samiti campaigned for justice in Mattoo case way back in 1999…I salute them for their efforts…
But I don’t understand your point here….Are we writing the history of the Priyadarshini Mattoo case in this blog ???
I wonder how kiddish is your post…Sorry, If you think I’m rude…
We have enough patience….
@ Mannat
I totally agree with you…But Sanjay Peshin had a right to express his views…Moreoever, the post by Karan Bhatt was also totally OUT OF CONTEXT…Nywaz, sometimes people get emotionally charged due to various reasons and pressure…
There are many people who are facing threats right now…The witness in the Katara case etc etc…Hope everyone is provided with adequate security…!
There are as well many cases which are pending like the Nanda BMW case and the CP Shoot out case of Pradeep Goyal…They should also get Justice at a fast pace !
Feb 1st, 2007 at 8:35 am | #
A Kashmiri pandit boy pulling down in public a Kashmiri pandit female.[* Edited : Dude, Can’t let you have religion attacks on my space]. You take pleasure in other persons pain and suffering.A female whom the entire nation respects is been treated like this by her own community membes. [* Edited : You will be bumped off completely next time if you post similar views]
Feb 1st, 2007 at 9:10 am | #
I have been busy with my offical work due to the closings and while back am pleased to learn that things moved in a direction I would have like to.
@ ADITI : I know Aditya and Indu both. I like Aditya because he truly represents a youth. Though I have nothing against my own contemprories. Aditya Raj Kaul is not being identified up with one particular campaign. Whether it is broken temples in Kashmir or Priyadarshini campaign or Human rights issue of Kashmiri Pandits or Nithari or Reservations issues……Aditya has been in the forefront. He is one of the few youths who has truly come up and that signifies building up of a next generation leader. There are very few leaders who accept their fault and those who do are called “genuine leaders”. People like me , who are elder can only “suggest and hope” !
@ ADITI - Tikoo and Dr Shakti again happen to be members of Panun Kashmir . Even KSD had played a role years back. Strategies , time and nature change ……… The present generation youths played an intelligent role , and no wonder they got the result.[ With due respect to previous agitationists who unfortunately lost to the power of criminals ]
@NEHA : Please dont jump into being a feminist. Neither is anyone a MCP here. Remember Media does not chase anyone till they dont know what would help them raise their TRP. For media , Indu was a female fighting for Justice and Aditya a teenager who started the campaign. That makes an interesting them . Would media have chased if some Shyam Nath Dhar would have made speech or representation ?
@ JITENDER ” You have no right to criticise my community . We are a proud and united community and would achieve our goals. Not only has our community survived despite a Holocaust ,Genocide and ethinic cleansing against them….but we are on road to progress. Much faster than an average in India. Confusions and arguments happen everywhere …even in family. Have your parents never argued and if yes would you compare it with the same words as you have written. Kashmiri Pandits have a history of thousands of years and we have survived despite being subjucated to tyrannic rule since last 800-900 years. Had the community not been intelligent and united….the fate anyone can guess.As for the leadership…We have produced it by dozens. We have given India rulers from Nehru to Rajiv Gandhi. We give leaders to our community , so your observation is incorrect.
@ BLOG OWNER : I find Jitenders comment as insult to my community and would requet you to delete it as ASAP. I can not tolerate anything which is disrespectful to my community. I also strongly have a suspuscion on the persons identity as well !
@ REST OF READERS : Build Peace , Build Confidence , Encourage alignments , Buil Optimism…… Logon ko lada ke kya mazaa le raho ho
Feb 1st, 2007 at 9:21 am | #
Thas not fair…..how can you still allow a comment like “A Kashmiri pandit boy pulling down in public a Kashmiri pandit female”.
Are we discussing caste and relegion ? It is a matter of two individuals and seems to have been sorted out !
How would it appear if someone writes ” A Hindu Blog owner encouraging a fight between a two Brahmins and a Sikh instigating it “
Sorry….Ma’m…… please consider my request again ….. a thoughtful and reaonsable decesion
Feb 1st, 2007 at 9:33 am | #
Dear Pawan - I have deleted what I found offensive. The bits left, I don’t think are more than one’s bitter observation.
Feb 1st, 2007 at 9:36 am | #
Dude ,
I am sorry for hrting the sentiments of a particular community .i dont believe in divison. We all are indians irrespective of to which caste creed or sex we belong to.
My point was only to make you people realise as to what you are doing to your own people by going public and maligning a female.This is how world will see you as .Do you want them to see you like this?.
Surprisingly none of you have said even once said that yes Indus security is a cause of concern ,though you have mentioned other cases?.
If you say you are great ,i am sorry i dont agree with that staement ?
Your action say otherwise?
Feb 1st, 2007 at 9:40 am | #
Dear Ms Juneja ,
I would have liked if you would have written ” one’s minute observation” instead of ” one’s bitter observation”.
In his note Mr Jitendar writes as if a female is humiliated by her community. While as it is a point of discussion/argument of two individuals.While An individual wrote a comment , all others remained neutral and tried to clarify. Many wrote comments in support of the female. So where does that question of a female being humiliated by her own community arise ?
Ms Juneja ….kindly give at another thought ,,,,,,maybe a bit more carefully !
Feb 1st, 2007 at 9:47 am | #
Jitender ,
For what we have done and what we have achieved can be discussed . And I am sure you would probably more enlightened when you hear the facts. One can not descibe a Auschwitz in comments of a blog. Till then maybe one of us remain in ignorance……………..
Regarding security….. People from within the community have made representation and requests ….. til what i last heard that security was provided. We wish safety for all and if there are more concerns…of which i am not knowledgable….not only as citizens of this country but individually as a community we would surely take it up….Last i had heard she was provided security by UP police and gunman used to accompany her.I am not aware of what changed since that time…..
Jitender ….. we have a rich culture and intersting history…….. you may be a changed man and would be proud of being associated with a Kashmiri Pandit once you know more of us…………Sometimes the packaging may come a little duller than the product itself………
Have you heard of Pt Kalhana ?
Feb 1st, 2007 at 11:23 am | #
Pawan,
Just to add to your knowledge (:: general), you are running a month behind regarding Indu’s security “the actual matter in discussion”. You may read the post again
. I also observe some unparliamentarily statements in various comments here that need to be controlled. As far as I think, the community matters and the personal matters need to be discussed pesonally, not with forum like this.
To all, I feel like and I seek individual opinion in the matter of Indu’s security as Aditya, Pawan, Sanjay, Karan and others being the true leaders and activists, should take it as a social and personal responsibility. She being a female braving out the all odds and taking the social activism to next apogee. This is our responsibility to make her feel safe and secure. I don’t know how many of us think about the safety of female in Indian society when she is not secure even inside the walls. Crime, in any form is not accepted but crime against women is on increase. Though not willingly but we all are part to it.
I would like to appreciate Neha as she has raised a good point here. On the other hand Aditya sounds laughing on that. Nothing against him but not a sign of a social activists and I can also find him taking lame excuses of being 17 of age. I would suggest him to stop that. You can counter if you are not agreed to it.
Here, the question is about the security of a social activist that to be a female? We can perhaps stop making fun out of it. Further, we would like to see you people being in India (I guess in NCR) how you take up the issues with Indu’s security.
…Mannat
“All man’s worldâ€
Feb 1st, 2007 at 12:15 pm | #
Observation no 1: [ * Edited : Not True]
Observation no 2: Responsible for becoming laughing stock themselves and the blame has come upon me.
Observation no:3 People who are either supporting or opposing are bothered only and only for an individual who is a friend,guide ,philosopher etc,etc and not for a cause.Keep cause above individual ( a suggestion).
Observation No: 4 Each one of them wants publicity in the hearts of their heart because none of them has bothered to read the blog owners message and concern .
Observation No: 5 Blog owner ,don’t know why has taken a neutral stand ,in spite of knowing the truth? .
Feb 1st, 2007 at 12:30 pm | #
@ JITENDER
Pardon me for saying that you are immature. You do not understand persons , communities and you have absolutely no control over your keys.Even the Blog owner understands you and has warned you to control your language.
Your observation is as good about my community as Johnny Lever or Rakhi Sawant has about Mesopotamia.
I had thought that I would try to give you some knowledge about us and India, but you fail to even qualify to be a person on whom I may invest time.
I know where you re comming from and am sure if the blog owner traces your IP….she would see more IP’s very similar to yours with different name
@ BLOG OWNER : To clear the confusion…..I request you to kindly clear Mr Jitenders doubt. He needs to be shown a mirror so that his confidence in his observation is announced.
Feb 1st, 2007 at 12:32 pm | #
Mannat,
Read my lines again.I am refering that to Karan Bhatt..who is targetting Aditya by those silly remarks without knowing the fact .So I am refering to him that,” lets not drag Nithari into this”..and if we are talking bout Indu’s security then it is related to Priyadarshini ’s case.Dont forget that the insecurity of Indu came after the verdict of the case..ALso do you however feel that we are talking bout Indu’s security.Where the hell the debate is going ..from a pin pointing a person and now the whole community..Mind it No one has a right to say any false remarks about our community.
Feb 1st, 2007 at 12:42 pm | #
@ JITENDER :
Ur Observation No 1 is left for Moderator to clear .
Ur observation No 2 is your own thought.
Ur observation No 3 onwards would be more respectable had you not done the same which you are suggesting . As far as i am concerned…… i have not opposed anyone .,….and have read the well written blog……i have a liberty to chose to comment or not …….why are you feeling compelled ?
It does not matter to me if you write under a name of Jitender Singh, Jitender …Arti or ……i have couple of more…..It does not matter to me if you label me as a mentor os anyone……
……………For you know nothing close to truth………God Bless
Feb 1st, 2007 at 3:29 pm | #
FOR both neha and jitendra….
lemme put up jus one point. u have beeen consistenly hankering over “the true issue” i.e indu’s security. i guess u have read it incorrectly.. the true issue here instead is “the brave running for cover”. nowhere has the ‘lady’ issue been mentioned.
i am afraid to say this, but the issue of feminism has no place here. all the article alludes to is “bravery in the times of tyranny”.! blaming a guy or any man for that matter does not declare your view as correct. save it for some other blog.
SECONDLY, attacking the community was the most hideous attempt ever made by a supposedly educated individual. m glad pawan put an end to it then n there.
AND LASTLY, knowing myself the security concerns of women and the fact that even travelling in buses can get unbearable.. i truly SALUTE indu jalaLi.. but then my salute ALSO goes forth to all those significant witnesses amnd activists (no bar of males n females) who have fought for causes.
regards,
pooja shali
Feb 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pm | #
Dear Adity & Jitendra:
Adity: I have not written anything bad and i have not written against any body either but u still choose to write to me. I dont know why? Seems u r writing on somebody’s behest who does not have the courage to come forward and write. What is so offensive in my post, if u read my previous post u will see that it is for everybody and i have tried to give due credit to Indu as well as Aditya but one thing is very clear that it is always a team effort and any leader with out supporters/activists around him is not worth a cent. So Adity try to be calm and dont jump to conclusions, that is always good for physical and mental health.
I just pity u.
Regards
-Veer
For Jitendra:
Jitendra i think u must make ur writing more moderate and take into consideration the sentiments of the people writing.
You have already been advised a lot and i hope u will follow some suggestions, again they will keep u in good spirits
u can not be biased either.We are not here to play a mock INDO PAK war game. So plz try to be civilized.
I do second all including pawan and pooja who have gave u some suggestions.
Arouse ur conscience and let ur conscience guide you.
Dont be somebody elses carrier.
Rgds
-Veer
Feb 3rd, 2007 at 2:11 pm | #
Dear all,
After this heated and long discussion, how far we have reached on Indu’s sceurity? This question is specially for the youth activists including Pawan D, Aditya K, Karan B, Sanjay P, Arti K, Neha, Veer S, Jitendra S, Saabs, Pooja S and GaZZal (the post owner). I hope the pupose of the post would be attained.
…Mannat
Feb 4th, 2007 at 5:08 am | #
Hello,
Thank You …
Waiting For You …. Another Sweet Reply ….
God Bless You …. All …
Feb 4th, 2007 at 8:38 pm | #
There are people who create monumental blunders of repeated blaming, envy the courage & presence of mind of others against their expectation to use them till the show time of the campaign and then play deceit at last minute as they try steal all the lime light by labelling himself and/or his favourites as the lead campaigners and here I am astonished to find them sound caring for rest of the team & then tender apologies……….. May the best sense prevail upon all
Rajesh Koul
Feb 5th, 2007 at 5:48 am | #
@ KARAN : Despite your suggestion of deviating from the topic, you have done nothing better. Let us start discussing as individuals what can we do for the security of the people who have campaigned.
Now that there has been change in the top brass in police in Ghaziabad, after the Nithari fallout…I suggest that the lady should approach the police afresh and make sure she is heard. In case she is ignored than the responsibility is collectively of the society in whole.
Interestingly todays newspaper carried a wrticle of Santosh Kumar Singh,killer of Priyadarshini Matoo giving legal suggestions in Tihar. It is interesting as it has appeared in the newspaper
@ RAJESH : What is the mounmental blunder you are speaking about ?
Feb 5th, 2007 at 6:34 am | #
When the brave have to run for cover .People like Aditya Raj,Pawan and Sanjay make sure that the person is left alone to face it but they forget one thing that All those who are facing it alone will emerge more stronger and victorious then ever coz for surviving they will strive more and much harder.
Cheers!
Feb 5th, 2007 at 11:50 am | #
Daer All the Youth and Social Activist,
Kindly look into yourselves and see what has gone wrong where.If you are raising a finger on someone remember tomorow someone might raise it on you also.So stand untied for the causes .Remember individuals come and go but the good deeds always remain.Respect is earned and not demanded. Praise is earned and not snatched.Good work can never get un noticed keep that in mind and learn to give due respect to elders and to females coz we Indian and this has been our culture and value system. Accept mistakes and learn never to committ them again.learn to enjoy other persons success as much as you enjoy yours. Trust you will go places and then there wont be any need to prove what YOU HAVE DONE.
By the way my wife is also a Kashmiri Pandit and she got really hurt to see another KP female being targetted by her own community members.thats how i came into picture .otherwise i have no intrest in such things. i am much above such silly and petty things
Feb 5th, 2007 at 1:26 pm | #
@ ARTI : The four line in your text and the selective names you have written has expressed a lot about you .Non of the people have left anyone alone, so dont try to put words in anyones mouth. It is unwise.
Anyway, i wish everyone to come out stronger in a righteous way.
@ JITENDERA
You have sent a message to all accusing everyone of raising a finger against someone. First i would like to know why have you generalised this ? Would you name the people who have made accusations ?
You are trying to create a confusion on a thing which does not exist.
Lastly, i feel sorry that despite being a Kashmiri Pandit,by birth….. you wife has not been able to give you enough time so that you would understand humanity and culture better.
You have been continuously trying to get a community involved, where it does not warrant.
Kindly dont make this a Kashmiri Pandit centric issue……..
Feb 6th, 2007 at 11:47 am | #
Dear blog owner .
I still dont get it .What are we discussing here ?.Where have these guys taken this very serious issue of getting justice and living with the consequences.you people wont understand it becuase you have felt it. The day you feel something similar you will realise the seriousness.
Ask me, my elder sister got killed in front of our eyes and we had to leave that place because we didnt want other member of our family to go through that.May God keep you away from such tragedies. Aditya or Pawan for me you are same.Bring some sensitivity in yourself and fear God.Aasiman pe udene wale mitti mein mil jaya ga…………..
Feb 6th, 2007 at 12:00 pm | #
Arti,
One of us is confused . And i know I am not.
I have sympathy for you of having seen your sister killed. Nothing in life can be more tragic than that. However I too have seen my share of tragedies and tragedies cant be compared.
If you would have read my last comment , you would have realised that i have given some suggestion for the security of the lady concerned. Atleast i have suggested that. As any of you,including you in particular tried to catch on that suggestion.
Instead you have continued up the bashing of Aditya and have included me…..God knows for what reasons…..
If you want me to stop suggestions and say Zindabad and Zindabad for someone …..I would satisfy your ego as well. But I dont think we are discussing that .
Lastly, i must say that i see a reflection of Indu in your writing. The way you write and the way you use the phrase……..
The blog owner knows better…………..
God Bless
Feb 6th, 2007 at 12:03 pm | #
Yes the blog owner knows better. Wish i was like Indu ……………………..
Feb 6th, 2007 at 12:09 pm | #
Arti,
God bless you for everything you do and write…… Can we pick up from what I have suggested ?
Is anyone serious ?
Pawan Durani
http://www.thekashmir.wordpress.com
Feb 6th, 2007 at 6:16 pm | #
for all,
let us first decide as to what are we supposed to debate on.. indu’s security, kashmiri community or sheer blaming for the sake of it???
i am aghast to read that in trying to defend one lady how can we possibly forget the innumerable other females who battle out their daily lives searching for security?!!!
pawan suggested a point here..(so then arti why are u transmuting towards the gender issue again n again) there wont be a bigger feminist than ME, i can bet, but there’s an occassion to argue on that, its not now! instead of takin ahead pawan’s opinion, he his being attacked for being a male..poor pawan!!!
and if arti feels that she wishes she was indu..i must also add that i wish was Mother Teresa!!! but m not.
so as who we are.. i suggest that indu must keep the security till she feels the need.. but the brave social activist that she is she must also come fwd and help females who are in dire need of it… because m sure she has great deal of power and mass support to do that.. n i would truly appreciate this gesture.
warm regards,
pooja shali
Feb 8th, 2007 at 7:31 am | #
Dear Pooja,
We already have topic to discuss so there is no point to decide it again. You, a feminist, there are some doubts
. Nothing against you as such but can’t agree to you either. You must have missed the context here. Let me remind you, we are discussing about Indu’s scurity. There can be a great discussion on the security of female in our society and i must appreciate that you raised this point. This could be a new discussion topic. As far as, about taking forward the Pawan’s opinion, he is running sort of facts here so you too. I would also like to join you in sympathizing for Pawan.
If, We consider your suggestion about Indu, hummm!!! she is already running for her cover and hats off to your expectation from her.
I wish you were “Mother Teresa”. It takes little to write and more to practice the wisdoms and the courage.
…Mannat
“One day we will join our hands.”
Feb 8th, 2007 at 7:52 am | #
How would it appear that for the security of the insecure someone start a online signature campaign and then it may be presented to the people concerned.
BUT
The campaign letter should also state
1. The facts of the insecurity
2. The history
3. Role of Delhi Police
4. role of UP Police
5. The reasons for dissatisfaction from the current security
6. Expectations from the Government
I think it should suffice
Feb 8th, 2007 at 6:01 pm | #
hi mannat,
oh i dare not even suggest to become mother teresa.. i know i stand no where.. it was just a remark i hope the intelligent understood. and m glad that suggestions fr the security concerns have begun to pour in.
and feminism has got nothin to do with blindly attacking the males and supporting the females.. but jus about being sensitive to women concerning issues and to speak about them- at the right time.
so lets take the suggestions by others fwd. and reach a viable and perhaps a deserving solution, amicably.
regards,
pooja shali
Feb 9th, 2007 at 7:27 am | #
Dear blog owner,
Who is this Pooja Shali by the way ?.I am confused as to what her role is in this whole set of discussion.First she comes across as Aditya’s defender.Then she comes across as Indu’s well wisher ,then she comes across as a supporter of whole male community and then blah blah blah.Pooja madam are you an activist ?. If so great do us a favour keep your mouth shut espescially when someones personal life is being discussed and you dont know ABC of that person.As a female if you cannot respect another female then i am sorry to say that you too dont deserve any respect.You might be an activist but one thing is for sure, you cannot be a Mother Teresa, even in your dreams.Wont take shitty things, when it comes to female.You try first to become a lady in real sense(which seems missing from your dictionary) ,then think of taking leaps.
Pawan your suggestions make sense and i think we should discuss it out with Indu .Hey what do you suggest why not ask Puja to do the honours .A chance for her to show her real concern for the needy and helpless people.
Feb 9th, 2007 at 8:44 am | #
ARTI:
Before pin-poiting or commenting on Pooja,See your self in mirror..At one time you are talking about feminism,talking bout KP lady ,her security,her concerns,respects a female,stands by her and at the same time u r using such disgrading words against other KP female,who is trying to neutralise and who is commenting on all this being as a neutral person..What intentions you have..!…If you talk bout feminism and female power then try to respect other female too..!.Your last comment describe all about u..!
Feb 9th, 2007 at 8:45 am | #
Pawan:
Your advise surely makes a true sense..!
Feb 9th, 2007 at 8:55 am | #
Arti Ji,
Thank you for acknowledging my suggestions. However I dont think it would be wise for me to ask Pooja Ji to start this campaign. She fisrtly has not volunteered for the job and then it is not practical to thrust something .
I find it shocking for you to ask “Who is this Pooja?” . It is not polite and i dont think she has been against anyone in her comments. And it should not matter to you if she supports Aditya. What is wrong in anyone supporting Aditya,unless the motive / agenda is to oppose Aditya.
Pooja has also suggested that we need to work on my suggestions but it seems you are annoyed for her being soft on Aditya . Why does it worry you if she is not opposing Aditya ?
You yourslef say that she doesnt know ABC of a person , then how do you expect her to lead for the person about whom she doesnt know ABC , as per your thoughts.
Let us move constructively and let us shed this pre conceived agenda of Aditya bashing. And it surprises me to see the agenda being projected like that and I am still unable to figure out what we are trying to prove.
Would i request you to take the chance yourself and start some campaign for the insecure. I am sure you have you may start the thing well.
Pawan
Feb 9th, 2007 at 9:33 am | #
Pawan,
Well why should it worry me if anyone is supporting Aditya .In fact she is supporting Indu also so ?. Should i be worried about that also?.if i dont know Pooja Shali whats wrong in it ( Unless and until she has won a noble award or has done something extra ordianry which I should have been aware off ). There are so many activists out here,how many names from them you remember.
The suggestion has come up from your side so if you dont want an activist like Pooja to take a call,you do it yourself.You know each other quite well .So you do it or she does it it is one and the same thing
For a change practice what you preach Aditya oops sorry i mean Pawan
Feb 9th, 2007 at 9:54 am | #
Dear Blog owner,
Just came to know from someone that Pawan,Aditya, Pooja, Veer and Sanjay all belong to a group called Roots In Kashmir. They all know each other quite well and hence are defending each other.In fact came to know from the person who is also a part of their team.So the opinion they give is all biased and bull shitting coz they are defending their friend and not the issue.The discussion that has been going has not been fair and honest .This is the reason that your message took a different angle because people personalised things.I pity these so called activists who never raise above their individual needs and are so bloody materialistic..Hah! Samaj sudharna nikla hain,.pehle kudh ko to sudhar lo.
I
Feb 9th, 2007 at 10:30 am | #
Dear All,
…Mannat
“Heading for eternity.â€
Feb 9th, 2007 at 11:24 am | #
Whoa .. thread still on..
Ok, so who is the winner ?!?? I am betting on a draw… both are distinguished “social workers” and have a huge fan following.. Though things seem to be in favour of Indu Jalali here..
Wanna join an NGO anyone.. samaaj seva etc? Ham secular hai… doesnt matter how much violence we would use to prove our non-violent secular credentials..
Feb 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pm | #
Dear Blog Owner,
Who is this Aarti Kaul by the way ?
This Aarti Kaul (if at all dats her identity) seems to be a fake person…or maybe Someone’s reflection !
I can only laugh at her ‘KIDISH’ post…DON’T KNOW WHAT SHE WANTS TO PROVE BY AGAIN TARGETING ME AND AS WELL OTHERS…Her post reflects her arrogance and nothin less then crap…I don’t find any reason why she should attack ‘Roots In Kashmir’, its members or for that matter Pooja Shali…Pooja has so far been the most neutral person in the discussion…! Pooja hopefully you can give a piece of advice to the most concered Aarti Kaulji…
If Aarti is so much interested or concerened towards security of Indu ji why doesn’t she herself start the campaign instead of arguing on baseless issues and staring on computer…!
She seems to be jeleous by my achievements at such a young age !…Great Going….
By the way, just to tell you that whenever I see such a remark on me (i.e. - rarely) I just laugh and move away…but this time I thought I’ll suggest you to be doer instead of a mailer on this blog !
I really hope instead of wasting her time in blah blah blah in useless things she really does something on ground…!
Targeting and accusing someone is very easy but working on grassroot level against or for someone is not everyone’s cup of tea ! Hope she understand’s this soon…!
Her own quote describes her well, “Samaj sudharna nikla hain,.pehle kudh ko to sudhar lo.”
Hopefully, when she gets furious after reading this post, she’ll write a descent post without rude remarks…Let us see…
Sorry for this post, but this came only after reading couple of your unhealthy remarks…! Cheers !!!
“People who really want to work, work silently till the end, without geting too much into the publicity or discussion part of it”…!
Feb 9th, 2007 at 9:33 pm | #
Dear Blog Owner,
Some remarks by Aarti Kaul against our group and activists have been rude and some words are foul which cannot be categorised into descent. I hope you will take proper action in that regard… Thanks !
@ AARTI KAUL
Roots In Kashmir or me or my fellow activists do not need the approval of anyone , not e