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Pati Patni aur Woh

A happy family - Nagma, Mrs. Ravi Kishen and Ravi Kishen

So finally after weeks of speculation and rumors, Bhojpuri superstar Ravi Kishen has come clean about his (close) relationship with fellow co-star Nagma. Unlike other movie industry actors, this guy seems pretty chilled out about discussing his extra-martial affair with the media and the entire nation.

This is what he said to Mumbai Mirror’s Mr. Subhash Jha -

Ravi is in a confessional mood. He opens up about his relationship with Nagma. “My friends and family are aware of my relationship with Nagma. My wife has accepted Nagma as a beautiful part of my life. I don’t lie to my wife about her. She’s gracious enough to accept that there can be a special relationship between a man and woman outside marriage. I’m not the first nor the last married man to have an intimate relationship with another woman?,” he says.

Ravi also confesses that there’s no commitment for the future between him and Nagma. “Nagma accepts that I wouldn’t leave my wife and children,” he says. “We’re living in the moment. We don’t even talk about the future. In fact Nagma comes home and often cooks along with my wife.”

Ravi met Nagma through her father, who’s his friend. “I met her the first time fourteen years ago. I’m very proud of my friendship with Nagma and would never demean it by hiding it. We’re two crazy sensitive wacko souls. It’s a sangam of so many feelings. Our bonding gives us a great comfort level on the sets. We create something beautiful on film,” he says.

“I respect Nagma for being a self-made woman,” he adds. “Every penny she owns is hard-earned. I’d never do anything to make her feel small.”

“I’d never do anything to endanger my career either,” he says. “I’ve slogged for years to get here. Domestic harmony is very important for a man to be successful professionally. My wife has full faith in me. And I’d never let her down. In fact she encourages me to sign films with Nagma. ‘Your friendship shows in your work,’ she says. My wife doesn’t think of Nagma as a home-breaker.”

Ravi claims that theirs is not a relationship based on selfish interests. “I’m very happy with her and she’s very happy with me. We laugh and joke together. We share everything under the sun and moon. There are no secrets between us,” he says.

Well on one hand Ravi Kishen should be given some brownie points for accepting his love affair with actress Nagma and also for being open about it to his wife and kids. But one can’t help but wonder, isn’t Mr. Ravi Kishen exaggerating a wee-bit too much at least when it comes to his wife’s approval of the other women. I mean as far as I have seen, heard and read; no self-respecting women (or man for that matter) would tolerate their partner going about painting the town red with someone else. If it was in fact an allowable thing in relationships then the number of divorces and breakups would decrease considerably and not to forget the number of family-court lawyers filling for un-employment benefits.

But seriously the whole yapping about ‘my wife has accepted that there can be a special relationship between a man and woman outside marriage or she comes home and cooks with my wife or my wife doesn’t think of Nagma as a home-breaker’ - just sounds too good to be true.

I can imagine thousands of men lining up outside Ravi Kishen’s house dying to ask him where they can find a woman with same (sharing) beliefs like his wife’s for themselves.

In my opinion there can be only three reasons why Mrs. Ravi Kishen is playing along with this charade of a social institution called marriage; Kids and financial security, she is having an affair as well or she is way too much in love with him. But I guess we people can only speculate from our end, the truth shall remain only with the people involved.

As for talking about Ms. Nagma, well she seems to have some sort of soft corner for married men. Remember her previous fling with cricketer ex-captain Sourav Ganguly and I think there was one South-Indian actor as well; though none of these relationships were publicly acknowledged.

Anyways for the time being everyone seems to be happy being part of the triangle, plus as an old saying goes, “Jab Miya, Biwi or Woh raazi to kya karega Blogazee”.

Just one question though before I sign off - Would same kind of confession be accepted by our society if it was made by a woman?

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Karan Handa
Jul 24th, 2006 at 3:47 pm | #

Come on Sakshi…you are just making too much of it. Men have always been having affairs outside marriage and our Hindu culture never saw it as a taboo. So why bother now?

Just because you call yourself a feminist doesn’t mean you have to point at every issue. Women belong in the kitchen and thats where they should be. It’s that simple.

Meena
Jul 24th, 2006 at 4:02 pm | #

Is this guy wierd? And for that matter, his wife is even wierder, for behaving such. Special relationship, yea right!

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 24th, 2006 at 6:17 pm | #

Would same kind of confession be accepted by our society if it was made by a woman?
Ms. yes they would, and then they would tag and call her a slut. Only slutty woman do these kind of things. First of all, Woman should’nt be sleeping around with Men. Think about it if Nagma(woman) had not slept around with Ravi then this kind of problem would not arise. If woman were conservative then the Indian family values would not be blatantly distroyed.
You should be glad Indian woman have some rights and be happy with that. If being in India is a burden for you, just look at the woman in Islamic countries and now stop complaining. And yes we know this your blog and you have the right to say whatever you want.

Born a libran
Jul 24th, 2006 at 8:17 pm | #

I found the whole story assuming or as u called it, a charade… But I saw the answer that these guys above me are writing and I went ROTFL… Well, women n men r certainly biologically very different but that doesnt mean that they ought to be treated differently by the society… I cant accept the guy having an affair in the manner he is having it right now living with both people simultaneously n making merry while the sun is shining… For the same reason, I wouldnt accept a woman having a similar kind of relationship. Now, that the personal angle is covered, the answer is yes for the society. A woman would find it a whole lot more difficult to say that in public… Society is to blame for this because they have oppressed women for long, but at the same time, I think that unless women fight back and show that they really are hungry for those equal rights, they won’t get it… Something that a majority of the Indian woman lack in their mentality…

GG
Jul 24th, 2006 at 11:58 pm | #

Sakshi,
I learnt about this open marriage concept from Orkut (of all the places)
Orkut has communities which devote themselves to open marriage, open relationships. I don’t know if it attracts many members from India. :-)
gg

confused
Jul 25th, 2006 at 3:13 am | #

Sakshi,

Why pass moral judgment on others or make assumptions like no self-respecting man or woman would accept such a relationship? I think plenty of people even in India accept such open relationship and I see nothing wrong with them. They are a matter of individual choice. As you said in the end, its none of our business unless and until his wife complaints, in which case the law must ensure her rights.

Ranjith,

Interesting. Label the woman a slut for sleeping with Ravi and who is Ravi sleeping with? His bed, I assume? Sex does not happen one way, to the best of my limited knowledge!

And since have Islamic societies become the sign post by which we should judge our own society?

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 25th, 2006 at 3:36 am | #

Confusesd
Nagma has a history of sleeping with married men ,so that in itself makes her a slut . Why blame Ravi?

Born a Libran
Jul 25th, 2006 at 3:54 am | #

Ranjith, Because Ravi is not a five year old… Unless you assume that his testosterones do all the thinking, I would assume that Ravi should be able to make independent judgement…

confused
Jul 25th, 2006 at 4:05 am | #

Ranjith,

What do you mean she has a history of sleeping with married woman? Ok, I accept it for argument’s sake.

Explain, why did the said married men slept with her unless and until you are accusing Nagma of rape.

Saakshi O. Juneja
Jul 25th, 2006 at 5:28 am | #

Well I am not making a judgment here…I just found the whole so called understanding between the three of them a bit bizarre. Double standards surely play a big part in all of this…Nagma is labeled as a slut/whore whereas Ravi Kishen still gets to call himself a Family Man.

Agree there are alot of people who are in Open-Relationship but what would be even more interesting to know is the number of married women having two men while her husband is committed to her only and has accepted the other man.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 25th, 2006 at 6:46 am | #

Confused
First of all women are the one who entice men to get into bed with them, I am not making this stuff up. Believe me , It’s stated in all religious books including the modern religions such has Quran ,Bible or the Torah. The bible even goes as far as mentioning that Eve sold out God. So I could put forth an argument that woman should be in control of their chastity has that is what God of all relgions want.
Woman and men have to be treated differently this is not double standards. This is the way the whole animal kingdom works. Let me ask you this? If the weather is hot why can men remove their shirts and walk around and women can’t?.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 25th, 2006 at 6:54 am | #

Ravi
As Ms. Juneja already stated in one of her articles that men could have penis in their brains, so I guess it is perfectly normal for Ravi to act has a five year old and should’nt be held responsible for his acts, while Nagma should be the one closing her legs.
Forget me , most of the older generation folks are going to agree with me. Just ask your mothers was it Nagma’s fault or was it Ravi’s fault. They will definently say it was Nagma’s fault.

Saakshi O. Juneja
Jul 25th, 2006 at 8:10 am | #

Mr. Kumar - Helloo! I never stated anything like that. As a matter of fact it was anti007 who proudly claimed that Men rightly placed Penis in their head. If you look at that comment again..I had questioned him about it. So pls place your facts right.

Double standards are pretty much present in every second aspect of Indian Society. Right from the very beginning women are conditioned to shut their feelings aside in the name of family and husband. If a women even dares to discuss about sex before marriage she is ridiculed and harassed by the media and the public.

As for women being in control of her chastity but how about if men controlled their precious ‘organ’ as well or have our GODs given them the right to shove it where ever they seem fit. Don’t men have the same responsibility towards their wives and children?

And the lame climate reason you have given…well women in western world so roam around in skimpy clothes during summer…if women in India started doing the same…then there would be rape cases every third second.

It’s easy to put everything under the category of ‘law of nature’ but the fact of double standards remains. Most of us prefer to be called humans but I guess looking at some of the comments here…we do infact have animals living among us.

confused
Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:32 pm | #

Ranjith,

That might be because most of the religious texts, if not at all have been written by men so they are advantageous to them. No? So the men could be tempted, the women were supposed to keep their chastity.

Yes, I agree that men are much likely to drop their pants atleast in India, but that is more because of social conditioning and not becuase of any biological differences. I don’t there is any difference in the sex drive between the two sexes. So in more open and liberal socities, for example in USA, you are hardly likely to see such differences.

Even from a moral point of view, even though I hate to use it, Ravi is a married man while Nagma is a free bird, so is it not Ravi who should be keeping those hormones in check? Why blame Nagma?

Sakshi,
”the lame climate reason you have given…well women in western world so roam around in skimpy clothes during summer…if women in India started doing the same…then there would be rape cases every third second”.

Tch, Tch, a feminist drawing the relationship between clothes and rapes?

What is the world coming to? I am sure you know this entire clothes provoke rape business is tripe….

Saakshi O. Juneja
Jul 25th, 2006 at 1:45 pm | #

Dearest Confused - Agree the clothes provokes rape relationship sound too odd because fully cladded women are raped most often in our country but the fact remains that these desperate men are there freely roaming our streets - we can’t even begin to imagine what they would do to a women in a strapless top.

Not to forget that our society is still way behind when it comes to dealing with issues relating to sex and sexuality.

shadows
Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:02 pm | #

>>> no self-respecting women (or man for that matter) would tolerate their partner going about painting the town red with someone else.
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Agree with you. Applies to both woman and man.

To tell you the truth, who is Ravi.

And the way I see it, all three are to blame in the whole messup.
Ravi - When he has such an accepting/understanding woman, why the need to look around elsewhere for someone like Nagma (heck, she also has underworld links, and there are people here defending her). Forget society, he is supposed to stand by his woman.
BTW, thats one Don Juan (or Clinton). What did he tell his wife!!!
Nagma - She knows Ravi is married, and still isnt bothered about the trouble it could have created. Not worth much writing further.
Wife - Why is she accepting something that is wrong. Forget the society, what is being missed here is loyalty. Relations like marriage are built on trust and loyalty and dedication. She is supposed to stand by her man, but not when the man does not care. Maybe she is hopeful, he will come back. Like Dona Ganguly was :P
Either she is too timid and has no other option, or herself looking for someone else. Aaaahh the all sacrificing woman, its all in vain, dont you realize that.
If you think about it this way, she might have made the mature choice. If she created a ruckus, the guy would have fled. Now if the guy has some sense, he might realize what he would miss.

But then, Bollywood is as wierd as it can get. Worth ignoring. Stupid people and their stupid antics. I tell ya, its the effect of watching too many Ekkta KKapoor soap operas.

By the way, Sakshi, whats SIFish. Cant really figure out. Ohh come on help me a bit. Eves got the brains and left Adams of the world like “Duhhh!!” :)

Born a Libran
Jul 25th, 2006 at 2:49 pm | #

Ranjith, u r brilliant… You are laying the foundation for the time you can have all the affairs you want to have or as u put it - u have the oppurtunity to have because a slut happens to be around… My mother might blame Nagma for being ready to jump into bed with him but she will never say that Ravi had nothing to do in the whole episode… R u telling that all the faithful men in this world (including ur dad) never went to bed with some one else just because they never met a slut? or r u telling that all men including both of us here r 5 year olds when it comes to thinking about sex… Because then, u need some growing up to do, dude…

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 25th, 2006 at 6:16 pm | #

Born a Libran
R u telling that all the faithful men in this world (including ur dad) never went to bed with some one else just because they never met a slut.
oh Please faithful crap, What is this some kind of Bollywood movie. Some of us live in the real world not in the bollywood la la land.! Don’t tell me you have never been attracted to other women besides your wife or your girfriend. Given the right opportunity men and women are ready to commit the deed.

I don’t know what kind of sick family you come from, but my dad and myself dont discuss sex and besides back in the day there was atleast a 10 year age difference between the groom and the bride. These days, the age difference is not has big compared to those days. So When a couple turns 40(reproductive age comes to and end) what happens? Wife has lost interest in sex and the husband is still good to go till he is sixty, then what happens people sleep around. It’s Biology.
“u telling that all men including both of us here r 5 year olds when it comes to thinking about sex”. It’s more like 15 year old.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 25th, 2006 at 6:27 pm | #

Ms. Juneja
“And the lame climate reason you have given…well women in western world so roam around in skimpy clothes during summer…if women in India started doing the same…then there would be rape cases every third second”.
Why should be we set our standards to the western world ?. If 8 years of firangi education has made you a firangi that does’nt mean you need to make India the next australia. While we are speaking of western world also, dont forget to mention the divorce rate, children born out of wedlock, drug addiction rate, suicide rate.
You need to get your facts straight too U.S has the highest rate of rapes in the world, not India. source:http://sa.rochester.edu/masa/stats.php
Also, I have seen western men ( white if you must) sleep around with women and they gain respect and called players and if a white women does the same thing they are tagged and called a slut. Double standards are present all around the world not just in India.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 25th, 2006 at 6:30 pm | #

Shadows
It’s Save Indian Family (SIF) foundation.
This a passage from their introduction:”SIF works against patriarchy, gender based discrimination, media bias, elder abuse, unscientic social research and fund chasing by various organisations in India. SIF members swear by Gender Equality”.

Saakshi O. Juneja
Jul 25th, 2006 at 6:38 pm | #

Oh! Lordy Lord….finally the climax is out. Mr. Kumar is infact a proud SIFish member. Shee Saku…you should have seen this comming. WOW!! What a bumber. :)

Shadows - Sweety..my version to Mr. Kumar’s take is totally opposite but very simple. SIF means SHAMING INDIAN FAMILY organisation. Just Google this and you shall get more details.

Confused and Libran - Kumar is a SIFian…you have been warned.

Born a libran
Jul 25th, 2006 at 7:00 pm | #

Ranjith: My last message on this topic because this can go on forever and ever without anyone of us changing our opinions… So, to save a whole lot of words, here goes - Marriage is a committment between two people. It takes a lot of hard work to keep it going because there are ups and downs at each juncture in life and so it is the same in love and marriages. It is natural to be attracted to other women even when u r married and committed to a single person. However, if the commitment is strong enough, it will win over what your hormones. If human will is not strong enough to win over what your hormones have to say, then we might as well be one and one with the animals. Yes, I have been attracted to various people while remaining commited to the same person for a long period of time but that doesnt mean I went to bed with him given the oppurtunity.
Dude, you need to brush up on biology - Women are considered to reach the apex of their sexual appetite around 30-35. To quote a website - The male libido (and capability) peaks in the late teens / early twenties, and begins to slow around this age. About my family, we have our good and bad points like every other family but who are you to judge whether my parents have brought me up the right way?

confused
Jul 25th, 2006 at 7:50 pm | #

Dearest Sakshi,

I disagree. Sorry! Please note, I am not advocating any dress code for woman, I am merely saying I find the link between rapes and clothes tenous. But then, we can agree to disagree. No issues.

Shadows,

If you are referring to me for defending Nagma, first, I am not sure her alleged underworld connections are material to the discussion here. Second, I was merely making the point that we should not be judging anyone by our own moral compass, it does not meanthat I condone either Nagma or Ravi’s or his wife’s actions. it just means It’s none of my business.

Since you do read my blog, I am sure you know what i think sbout such things anyway…

Mario
Jul 25th, 2006 at 8:56 pm | #

Double standards this does’nt surprise, even in developed nations such has Japan double standards exist e.g vaishyas. Japanese men are allowed to sleep around even after they are married, however women are not allowed to. Also in the U.S even in the so called bible belt, women and men are treated with different standards. So, why blame only Indian men.

Sakshi
“Agree the clothes provokes rape relationship sound too odd because fully cladded women are raped most often in our country but the fact remains that these desperate men are there freely roaming our streets - we can’t even begin to imagine what they would do to a women in a strapless top”.
You make it sound like all Indian men on the streets are rapists. Don’t you think, it might just be the opposite that Indian women are condtitoned by society to believe rapists are all around ,so they are forced to dress conservativley. I could imagine women getting the dirty stares while wearing skimpy clothes ,but rape is’nt that too much of an exaggeration.

Karan Handa
“Women belong in the kitchen and thats where they should be”.
Why should they belong in the Kitchen?.

Ranajith
I dont understand, you say you belong to a group that works for gender equality and then you go ahead and openly discriminate women. why do you have such gender based double standards?

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 26th, 2006 at 3:33 am | #

Born a Libran
“I have been attracted to various people while remaining commited to the same person for a long period of time but that doesnt mean I went to bed with him given the oppurtunity”
First of all I did not know you were gay, and since you admit you are gay I guess this whole topic should’nt even apply to you.
“About my family, we have our good and bad points like every other family but who are you to judge whether my parents have brought me up the right way?”
Chill out! don’t be offended I really dont care or am I intrested about your parents and how they brought you up. What I was just saying was that my parents are not that sick minded to be talking to their kids about their sexual encounters.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 26th, 2006 at 3:36 am | #

Saku
Good for you! you finally figured it out you get 5 brownie points.

Saakshi O. Juneja
Jul 26th, 2006 at 3:41 am | #

Mr Kumar - SIFian Brownie…na thanks. They simply taste yukk!!! Plus the iceing of whole gender equality pretence…gives me allergy. Good Day, anyways.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 26th, 2006 at 3:42 am | #

Confused
“I disagree. Sorry! Please note, I am not advocating any dress code for woman, I am merely saying I find the link between rapes and clothes tenous.”
Why do you have to apologise if you disagree with Ms. Juneja. About the clothing remark, you should know by now Ms. Juneja makes up stuff as she goes along to support her sick twisted ideology. Also just so you know, if some one else were to make the same kind of ignorant assumption then all hell would break loose.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 26th, 2006 at 3:49 am | #

Mario
“I dont understand, you say you belong to a group that works for gender equality and then you go ahead and openly discriminate women. why do you have such gender based double standards?”
We dont discriminate against women, it is woman that discriminate against us and harass our families . I you need more info feel free to visit our site at http://www.saveindianfamily.org/

Born a Libran
Jul 26th, 2006 at 5:21 am | #

Ranajith: Oopsie… I was going to write them but in stead wrote him I guess… I am not gay… and u can debate my points above all u want though as I had said above - I will not reply… The real reason I wrote back is because I am interested asto why u think this topic does not apply to gay people… Cant they have happy commited relationships?

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 26th, 2006 at 6:01 am | #

Born a Libran
Have you heard gay people say it is easier for Homosexual men to get laid then it is for Hetrosexual men, becuase gays don’t have to deal with the women drama that straight men have to deal with. That in itself should answer your question. so, I guess this whole topic we discussed would’nt apply to them. As far as gays having committed relationship I am pretty sure they can have it, but my friend who is gay was saying that it is hardly possible becuase of a stupid IPC section (much like the F*c**d up IPC 498a).

Harsh
Jul 26th, 2006 at 6:23 am | #

Insane..that’s all I can say.
What’s the big deal about all this, anyway? I am sorry, but I am dumb enough to miss the point amongst all that mud-slinging, issue-dragging, closeting and baring of convoluted theories, hypocritic liberalism and….
Man, such a mixed debate!! Why does everyone talk about everything at once? Rape and reproduction, climate and conservativeness, sex and SIF, ‘firangi’ and family..wow.
Sakx, you are really a fire-starter. :)

shadows
Jul 26th, 2006 at 8:25 am | #

While the discussion has veered to - who is to blame, I think all of them are to blame. Doesnt matter if it is Nagma here or any other woman, she has no business spoiling things for Ravi and his wife. Ravi, well, should not be going after another woman when he has one and he is supposed to stand by her. And the wife, wonder why is she accepting such an arrangement.
For all that ultra-liberal talk, morality does have some role here. A commonly accepted code of conduct in society.

@sakshi,
ohh, I get it now. I was googling for SIF and SIFish, rather than save indian family or shaming indian family.

@ranajith,
I must say I do tend to agree with you here when you say that double standards are present all over the world, not just in India.

@confused,
I agree to your first point, yes, its immaterial here. Second point, where you say - Second, I was merely making the point that we should not be judging anyone by our own moral compass -
Whose moral compass then. Or you mean no morality should be applied on society. That would lead to chaos. Dont you think so. Some kind of accepted rules are needed. Otherwise, its ok for the man and woman to cheat on their partners. Say, if I am committed to someone, and still look elsewhere, am I not cheating (even if I tell my woman that I am doing such things).

Also note that, the moral compass always keeps changing directions. What was immoral 50 years ago will not be so immoral now. Collectively, we accept the rules of morality and they keep shifting. So when cheating on your marital partners become the norm in the society, you are not immoral anymore. Thats how it works, atleast thats what seems to me.

And also, I thought there were others apart from you who were defending Nagma.

Ranajith Kumar
Jul 27th, 2006 at 4:05 am | #

Harsh
you remind me of cops from Bollywood movies, who show up after the mess has been done. Good Police work Harsh.

newcomer
Jul 28th, 2006 at 10:59 am | #

Hi Sakshi,
R u against SIF or against ideology of SIF or against some SIF members.

newcomer
Jul 28th, 2006 at 11:09 am | #

Hi Sakshi,
Do not tell me you hate them all :).
because their ideology looks very similar to what feminist moment actually started with.

Saakshi O. Juneja
Jul 28th, 2006 at 12:38 pm | #

Dearest Newcomer - Have you heard an old hindi song, “Mein Bolongee toh bolo gay ki bolti hai”…for me it’s the same case with SIF. If I talk about them, the some hint that I am concentrating too much on them and then I have people like you, who want me to talk about SIF.

Anyways, getting to your question…I do not hate the any of the SIFian members. Now don’t laugh, I am serious. Life is too short to hate anyone and hold tiffs. The problem I have is with some of their members is regarding their approach when it comes to spreading their cause. I do believe that there are men out there who have been victims of 498A and Alimony laws but there are larger number of women who fall victims of abuse by the inlaws/husband.

Things need to be looked at equal level but some SIFians prefer spreading anti-women sentiments rather than actually projecting their thoughts and efforts on the matter at hand.

Anyways, as I said I have nothing against them…never had and never will. :)

The conscience
Aug 2nd, 2006 at 11:14 pm | #

Who would have thought Ravi’s honesty would churn up a sea of arguments!!! End of the day, the individuals involved have to decide for themselves, but then again, the equation does change, when you live in a society. But that factor, puts an whole new spin to the entire matter:)

On a side note, nice blog, used to just read ur post up on desicritics and first time commenting:)

Shan
Aug 3rd, 2006 at 7:34 am | #

I am a new visitor to this blog, and I fidn Ranajith Kumar’s commenst appalling and totally regressive. Of course I have entangled with Shadows before on another blog so I am not surprised he tends to support Ranajith.

Ranajith represents all that is wrong about the some Indian males today - self-serving, patriarchal, neanderthal scum. It is unfortunate that all that education they have gone throgh have yielded no results at all.

The only other places where I have actually read similar sentiments about women being the source of all temptation etc, are a couple of radical islamist web sites. It’s not a a surprise to know that all birds of the right wing conversative feather flock together.

shadows
Aug 3rd, 2006 at 9:16 am | #

Hey hey hey shan, stop it right there.. Yeah, i too think I have seen you somewhere, and if I am not wrong, your comments normally fill a page. I am not supporting Ranajith fully, and just a few points that I find valid.

Read all my comments, what I have written, and then accuse me.. anyway should I even care ? I know its all going to be a waste, since you are sounding like one of those right-wing bashing leftist secular progressives. If you think about it, there is no difference between the extremist right wing and the so called secular progressives like you. Both of them are unwilling to listen to each other.

shadows
Aug 3rd, 2006 at 9:23 am | #

Ranajith represents all that is wrong about the some Indian males today - self-serving, patriarchal, neanderthal scum.

Such harsh and ugly language!!! Cool down bro…

By the way, such scum are to be found everywhere in the world, it has nothing to do with India.
Such blind hate… aaahh.. I forgot you are secular and progressive, and to prove the credentials, India bashing without rhyme or reason is mandatory. Ok, find faults with nations and religions, but atleast think before you do so, and backup with facts, logic and reason. Dont dream up stuff or be one-sided.

Curious
Aug 29th, 2006 at 11:27 am | #

Kumar saab, aise attitude se to do chhoro ek ke bhee laale par jayenge aapko. Seekhiye kisen ji se kuch.

i hate ranajith kumar
Nov 25th, 2006 at 10:37 pm | #

ranajith kumar should be beaten with a stick and then locked up in an asylum, coz that’s where he belongs. or better he should be made to sleep with actor ravi kishen and see if they could entice each other.

ria
Feb 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 am | #

hi ravi i am u very big fan. i love to talk to u about lots of thing. when ever u get chance plz send me a mail. It is very important to talk to u. It is about u friendship with the Roopali.

bharati
Feb 4th, 2007 at 3:14 pm | #

Sif is not here to shield adultery by men or Woman for that matter. It is
The current accepted social scenario is that if you want to live with another spouse get a divorce from the first one.We are not here to suggest any alternate to that.Anybody who abets that act is also guilty of crime .

If ravi kishens wife decides to file adultery or bigamy against him wouldn’t be against him except that those who abet that act like nagma also be brought to justice. It is alsofit case to support ravi kishens wife.

Fresh Mexican Food Fan
Mar 15th, 2007 at 6:16 am | #

Calling Nagma a slut is absolutely low class cheapshot. Just because she acted with this weird looking guy in 10 movies doesn’t mean that they are having a relationship. He’s saying all that he’s saying to the media people, only to get more publicity by associating himself with Nagma who is relatively more popular than himself. If y’all fall for that, I don’t know what to say. No one seems to notice that Nagma rarely speaks to the media, so none of us fully know what her side of the story is. It’s amazing how easy it is to slander others without knowing the whole story.

In South, there’s a dude called Simbu, who’s full of himself. He could be a south indian equal to this guy. In any case accusing Nagma or anyone else for that matter is like throwing stones from a glass house.

Babu Giri
Feb 7th, 2008 at 9:39 am | #

Din jo guzar gaye hai yunhi
Raat bhi dhal gayi hai yunhi
Koshish tho bahut ki dil ne
Zuban pe baat rah gaye yun

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