LOL !!

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As for the question for Materazzi, “Sale kameene, tere ghar mein maa behen nahin hai kya?” ====
Sakshi, I wish Zidane had said this to Materazzi rather than headbutting him

And now, Sakshi, not to say that what materazzi said is all right, but it is very common. You might be offended as a girl, but a lot of such things happen. Such sledging is much more common in Football than in cricket. And the comments on the field can be worse than that. But not always do we see fistfights. Zidane did lose his temper, and I think that was because a scorching header by him was stopped by Buffon (wonderful save… claps ). Zidane was denied a chance to be in the history books, and so it seems that .. .. ..

By the way, Whats wrong with these newspapers. Just yesterday, (or day before), they said it was a comment on his wife. Zidane the super arrogant hero made a remark - “I ll give u the shirt after the match” , and the response from materazzi - “I would like the shirt off your wife”. And today, its back to mother and sister. Anyway, doesnt justify zidane’s headbutt. And Zidane started the war of words, thats clear from the videos.

What I feel is this - Incidents common on the field. Zidane loses his cool (like many times before). Zidane sent off. Media frenzy. Zidane wants some moments of glory. And hence both materazzi and zidane talking about the incident. Many such incidents go untalked about, because players ignore such sledging.

“Sale kameene, tere ghar mein maa behen nahin hai kya?”

LOL Sakshi, you are such a goonda!

I don’t like this…You are letting your personal soft corner interfere in seeing the complete picture, Sakx.
Like Shadows says, this is nothing unusual in this game. Even if it wasn’t, I would still say that Zidane was at fault at least partially.
Because, a man of his experience and class who is leading the team in the World Cup Finals is just being kiddish and irresponsible in reacting in such a manner. Materazzi’s comment was meant to provoke him into this (and it was unfair), but NOTHING can justify Zidane’s reaction at such a critical moment. If a man cannot keep his cool in this situation, it means he never gave the game and his country’s presence in the Finals the importance it deserved. Not to mention his own brilliant career.
There can be excuse for what he did.

sakshi, one question. why is this categorised under Women? all those involved in the headbutt incident were men.

Aahh well, but the war of words was started by Zidane. Why the hell did he even have to talk to him.

Its like, I say something bad, the other guy responds with something worse, but I should not have said that something bad in the first place.

BTW , If every mother /sis would be proud of someone who reacts thus, in India, he would be a very beaten up man. Words like bc etc are so common here. And hey, funnily enough, we call our friends that.

Hmm yeah, you are right about materazzi pulling zidanes jersey. Jersey pulling is a foul, and it may also lead to a yellow card, if the player is pulled down by the jersey. The referee should have punished materazzi for jersey pulling , not zidane.
At the end, materazzi is guilty of provoking zidane. and Zidane is guilty of losing his temper at a crucial time. I was wondering why zidane isnt used to such insults, they are way too common in football.

True about your second paragraph. But dont you think its strange. We (atleast the guys) call our friends BC and MC in routine conversation. Strange world.
I wonder what do gals call their friends ?? I have never heard friendly girls-hostel talk.

S and W…?? Man, I sure am lagging behind in this. Not to imply that I haven’t had my share of intensive verbal duels with friends…but S and W…??
Oh, incidentally, one of my favorite ones remains ‘Kutta’ and I proved it to a friend long ago why his “M…” was candy-pop compared to my throaty “Kutte!”. Because when someone calls me M he only suggests the obvious, but when I call someone a dog, I also imply that:
1.He was probably born with 5 other yelping siblings besides a drain. As a consequence,
2.His mommy has 6 udders. Therefore,
3.No bra all her life. (They yet have to make one that’d fit).
4.Anatomically speaking, it has other obvious implications (Can you imagine pissing like that?)
And if this wasn’t enough, he might still end up being a M*. Believe me, I have seen it happen.

Uhh…sorry, Sakx. Sheesh..I have made a mess of your blog. Please delete it if it offends you.
I usually have a clean tongue.

Well, this is so funny I came right back to comment again. Right after I posted the previous one, I saw this guy strutting past wearing a tee with a huge McDonald’s “M” on it. He must be wondering why I was grinning at him…Imagine, THE BIG M !!
haha!

>> then we in some cases to move on to S* or W* but all in a friendly way ofcourse

Err, umm.. I dont know what S* and W* stand for? Blushes I am out of touch here. (thats why i asked in the first place)
I suppose that stands for st and w*h, m i right?
Our female friends never used that language in front of us guys (while we did slip out some of them by slip-of-tongue, with the gals suppressing smiles and showing fake anger), but I am sure they did back in their hostel rooms or amongst themselves.

@Harsh,
:)) LOL Harsh, the most foul mouthed actor , in that case is Dharmendra.

>> And if this wasn’t enough, he might still end up being a M. Believe me, I have seen it happen. ======
Nahi yaar, thats not possible. They had shown some funda for this on Animal Planet. A kid leopard , if it strays into her mother’s territory, will recognize her by smell, and vice versa. I think the same is the case with most animals.
But then the kutta you saw must have been a real M

I mean, s ## t and w ### h ,
wordpress removed the stars I made.

This goes to show how hot headed Muslims and Arabs can be. If a Muslim can do this in front of billions of viewers worldwide, Imagine the things they can do when know is one wathcing. This also shows Zidane is also capable of killing his mother and sister in the name of honor.

Thank you.

You are welcome. Just so you know you are no different than I am. I know you are trying to be politically correct and to defend yourself you are calling me a moron, However I think you share the same opinions against Muslims like I do. Let me jog your memory below is an excerpt from one of your articles.
“The big change has been with the arrival of Muslims from the Mid-East, mostly Lebanese.
Some of them have refused to blend in. They have displayed active, overt racism against the mainstream Australian community (while quite happy to take Australia’s very generous social welfare payments).
Over a number of years, gangs of young mid-eastern men have terrorized parts of Sydney, attacking young males of other ethnic groups (including Indians), abusing and threatening women young and old. And this is something I say from experience and not from what I have heard or read. There have also been a number of horrific gang rapes of young Australian girls by these youths that have gone through the courts. One clear factor to emerge was that they had targeted these girls precisely because they were European origin, i.e. these were racist gang rapes”
So one question for you are all Lebanese Muslim immigrants’ rapists or murderers? Isn’t that what you are insinuating in this article. So why am I a moron when you freely and conveniently generalize call Muslim has rapists and murderers? So why should I respect Zidane’s opinion (him trying to protect the honor of his mother and sister) when Muslims are raping innocent Australian women. What do you mean by blend in? Are you asking the Muslim women to get rid of their hijab and be sexually active like most Australian women? Or are you asking Muslims to convert to Christianity.
The truth is you also have a screwed up opinion of Muslims like I do.
Doesn’t this make you a bigger moron than I am.

Ms. Juenja just because you have different views and opinions than me you don’t have to personally attack me with degrading comments such as moron, idiot etc. Not that it bothers me ,but that is just childish behaviour. Okay anyways, lets see

“The big change has been with the arrival of Muslims from the Mid-East, mostly Lebanese.
Some of them have refused to blend in. They have displayed active, overt racism against the mainstream Australian community (while quite happy to take Australia’s very generous social welfare payments).”

Ms. Juneja why don’t you read the above paragraph throughly once again, since that is what you said in your Australian raceism article. It doesn’t take a genius to figure what you are actually trying to say. You clearly mention Muslims from middle east are the new trouble makers in Australia, to top it off you mention them to be free loaders with your social welfare comment.
Also you never quite defined what “blending” in was?. Try blending in Sharia with the Australian laws.

“We have same cases in India too….many Hindu leaders/politicians under the pretence of religion have mis-used our innocence, faith and beliefs.” None of our leaders have done this and stop degrading the Hindu religion.

Also, If it is right for Zidane to head butt (violence) Matarazzi because he disrespected his mother and sister then I should incur from you statement that it’s okay for Muslims to go ahead with Jihad(violence) against India because they believe they are being oppressed by Hindus.

What happened to the Gandhanian non violence concept? And you call yourself to be an Indian.

>> It is very people like yourself on whom so called saviors of Hinduism like Mr. Modis and Mr. Thakerays thrive on. ==

Sakshi, these two might be extreme cases. But the threat to us is real. You might not like the way Ranjit puts it. These two examples dont nullify the real ground situation, that we are under attack. We are hated just because we happen to worship idols. (And if the Muslim invaders and British imperalists ever made an attempt to understand, idols themselves are not Gods, they are representations).

Even right now, we are discriminated against in our own country. I must add that it is in fact us who are the victims, whatever the blind seculars in the Indian press and TV say.

Thanks Shadow, atleast someone lives in real world. ” It is very people like yourself on whom so called saviors of Hinduism like Mr. Modis and Mr. Thakerays thrive on”. Thanks to Mr. Modis and Mr. Thakerays we still can practice our religion. Try reading the history books beginning from the invasion of Babur and see how many Hindus were forced to convert to Islam. If they did not convert they risked going to Gallows. Temples were descarated and Mosques were built in their place.
Fast forward to the 21st century take a look at what is happening to Hindus in the island of Bali. History repeats itself again, this would not be happening in Bali if they had Mr. Modi and Mr. Thakerays. Now say Thank you to Mr. Modi and Mr. Thakeray.

>>The point is that WE ALL are being discriminated at some point or the other.
Hey I have two girlfriends. Now I want to keep both of them. Why am I not allowed to do so.
The above is just a hypothetical example (maybe funny, maybe not). Neither do I have 2 GFs, nor have any intention of keeping two. But you get the idea. We cannot even manage our places of worship, there are govt controls over major shrines of ours. Again just another example.
We have much less rights than the minorities. Thats very true. And even then, we are the ones who are constantly picked on, the ones who are accused of inflicting terrorist acts on ourselves. (hell, they will even come out with a report saying that Gujaratis in the train bombed themselves so that muslims look bad).And those reports make it to the Guardian or NYTimes, thanks to our suckular media. Sadly we have no sane voice that highlights the right-of-center views.

>>The target of extremist groups are not only Hindus but also Christians, Sikhs, Muslims and others.
Not exactly. The target are Hindus. But others also die if they happen to be around. Like maybe a muslim or two amongst the two hundred in the train. Ok, why dont terrorist attacks take place in Bhendi bazar or bhiwandi. To say that terrorists are attacking everyone is kind of fooling ourselves.

>>Basically all Indians are being victimized. That’s why it’s even more important to stand together now…
Hope so that happens. But I dont think thats really possible unless the patriotic muslims actually come out and join the mainstream. And fight against their muslim terrorist brothers, which is less possible. (see how they came out to rally for osama and saddam).

@kumar,
I m not a supporter of modi or thackeray. You can say I am moderate right of center. Thackeray may have saved us during the 1992 riots, but he is also anti-north Indians, basically anti-non-Maharashtrians. He is an opportunist politician, nothing else.
I am fully in favour of going after the terrorists , regardless of their religion. But then, TADA and POTA were repealed to gather muslim votes. And so I piss on suckularism.

Shadows, Well what seems to be your solution. Send all Muslims and Christians out of India. You should know by now Muslims do not submit to India they submit to nation of Islam. This is clearly stated in the Quran and the Sunna of the prophet.

Ms. Juneja there are a lot individuals like me in this country, if you dont believe this than you are not living in reality. Trust me every time a bomb goes off ,even though the so called moderate Hinuds are scared to admit it, in their minds they still assumes it’s a Muslim who would cause this kind of carnage. When is the last time you commuted using the train?.

>> You should know by now Muslims do not submit to India they submit to nation of Islam. This is clearly stated in the Quran and the Sunna of the prophet.

Ranjith, I know that. Sadly no one realizes how seriously the muslims take it. They can kill for religion. For them, it is everything, and for us, it is just another part of our lives, just a set of guiding principles, loosely.
Dunno the solution. I cant think of any. The good thing is that India is so large that they will never be able to finish it off soon. It will take them another thousand years, given the current rate.

This thread reminds me of an old joke. A boy appears for an exam in his school where he was asked to write an essay on ‘RIVER’. But he had had his preparation done only for the ‘COW’s. So the boy starts like — “I have seen a river…with clean & blue flowing water…green grasses on both the banks. Cows love to eat those grasses. Cows are very useful animals…has four legs…so on”.
Where the muslims come from here :-). That should be a separate thread(s) altogether.
How many muslims play football for various countries? Must be quite a few of them around.
And also I guess Materazzi had a good idea of muslim temparament, and so he had planned nicely the exit episode for Zidane. now he is Italian. So now we know the view of Italians about muslims. Again we also have Italian/half-Italian political leaders ;). So we can now conclude on their (real but hidden?) views about muslims. Its a different thing that they don’t admit that in public because of political reasons.
Also I remember one similar (almost) incident between Mcgrath and Sarwan. None of them were muslims…then why..how…let me think…YESSS, got it…that has to be racism. The Australians are racists and they hates us because we worship many gods rather than a single god ? Thats wrong. Why there should be a single god. I don’t like monopoly; even US does not (they have antitrust and monopoly law in place).
See its so easy to explain things!!!
I don’t know how many Indians are interested in (loves) football, or actually played football (me a Bengali…so its default). It happens in every game of football, everywhere…the game is played in such a high intensity. Figo also headbutted in this world cup against a Dutch player, remember Ortega also against England, in past. One can take these as good case studies for one’s research.
Please keep topics on muslims aside when discussing football. We can sort them out (the muslim ) separately :-). Please no individual attack on muslims (like this one from Ranajith on Zidane)…because we can never finish up with them in this way…there are so many of them. Top down approach would be more feasible here :-)))

>> remember Ortega also against England,

Korrektion. Ortega against Holland. You just reminded me of one of the best players in 1998. Quicksilver, he was called, and rightly so. Such fluid movements on the field.

Nyadosh who is attacking Muslims . Your boy Zidane said that he was defending the honour of his mother and sister from Materazzi (Muslim Honour, as in Muslim men will protect them or else kill them for honour) . His stupid selfish act cost France to loose the world cup. FYI: If you haven’t heard Zidane is the sposkesperson for Muslim rights in France. For Muslims everything revolves around religon even football. If you need more example see if Muslim women in Iran or Saudi Arabia are allowed to play football or attend football matches. Iraqi football players were killed for not growing beards. Muslims and football go together, so we cannot seprate these issues.

seriously Materazzi is the scummiest player to ever of touched the feild, i thank the lord someone finnally gave him a fucken knock, the entire italian team are scum and deserve more than a headbutt each for the way they not only played but won the world cup. all i have to say is fuck you italians!!