>> He blamed the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance Government at the Centre for “failure” to ensure internal security.

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The timing is wrong, but what is said is true. Its not like - whatever self proclaimed secular does is right.

Not to sound too preachy or anything on similar lines, I have also noticed that (some) people on various blogs and websites have posted anti-Muslim comments, which is nothing but an inappropriate and pathetic act looking at the current scenario in the city and nation-wide.

Yes it is inappropriate. Agreed.

Then, who to blame.?? Politicians No. Muslims No. Police No. Ok, I suppose we wretched idolworshipping Hindus ourselves. We arent secular enough. See we are building police stations in Bhiwandi. How anti-secular are we. Of course, the muslims are angels they dont need police stations around. And of course, sonia gandhi is a saint. Hail Sonia. She can visit our city like a typical VIP during times of trouble and cause further problems for everybody. And of course, our hearts bleed when america is bombed. and more when america bombs them back. Strange strange world.

Ok, how do we prevent such attacks in future. Good logical solution. Do we try to prove ourselves more secular. Probably the islamic terrorists will melt and stop attacking us. Or better policing. Will that stop such attacks in future. Or we continue helping our friendly neighbourhood jehadis go to heaven and scru 77 boys or 77 virgins (depending on their orientation.. ).
Sakshi jee :), I believe in all that liberal talk, but not to the extent that we sleepwalk to our own death. Yes, Mumbaikars will keep the spirit alive, and peace will return. But how long before another such thing happens again.

when the general public’s emotions and tolerance are already at borderline.

Sakshi, Point to Ponder. Why are the public’s emotions and tolerance at the borderline.

sakshi,

>>The last thing we need is these politicians making volatile remarks

Just a thought. Isnt it exactly the lack of volatility the reason that we are in the current situation. That fear of change. Just that we fear such volatility is the reason that we stay silent. And things remain the same. Nothing changes, even though change is the only constant. Ok.. husshh everybody quiet, we dont want volatile remarks. Things might go worse.

Really, I am just fed up of words like ‘Hindu’ and ‘Muslim’…I am FUCKIN pissed off when someone even remotely tries to mention this.
There are PEOPLE dying out there…not religions, dammit !! Does it even slightly matter who we should blame? Or what community suffered more?? Will it change the painful deaths that fell on unaware people?
Human beings were torn like meat due to the acts of people who themselves don’t know (or care about) what ‘Hindu’ or ‘Muslim’ is!! It’s an excuse to kill. They don’t fuckin CARE..! Religion doesn’t come into picture anywhere..
All I can think about is the futility of it all. And it’s enough to piss me off with tears of anger. I don’t need to hear about ‘religion’ and ‘politics’ anymore.

Sakshi jee, by the way, hows the situation now. I hope things are returning to normal.

How ironic. On the rediff page where I saw the news of the blasts. Just a few links below, a link said “India grants $25 million to Pakistan for earthquake relief” .. Some things will never change.. and damn them , they do it in the name of friendship and secularism.

I recall the time I lived in Mumbai. The targets were the buses. I recall the time I missed meeting Yamraj, I was late in catching the bus number 340 in Andheri, which passed by Seepz, where my office is. And I recall I was back to travelling in one of those buses again, the next day. And the bombers were ultimately caught when the gateway of India bombing failed, thanx to the taxi driver who recognized them.

All this bombing crap has to stop. And something has to be done. If you look at the macro level, we are pretty much like Israel. A non-muslim country which is the target of Islamic terrorism, and so are we. Mumbai blasts are just one aspect of it. Dont think that if things return to normal, everything will be all right. No, not at all. We need to take some hard steps, or we are sitting ducks. Ok, we dont blame anyone, and work to bring things back to normal, but this will not stop any future attacks.

The spirit of Mumbai will live on…

I don’t need to hear about ‘religion’ and ‘politics’ anymore.

Thats the reason why we are sitting ducks. What we dont understand is this - We may not care about religion, but the people who are determined to wipe us out do.
Like you, even I dont want to be bothered by religion and politics. But the people out to destroy us are!! What do you do to them? Will they not kill you because you say that you are not bothered by religion and politics.

Dont ever make the mistake of thinking that these are the last. There will be more such acts.

Well, anyway, we will continue dying as always.

Harsh, you would be totally naive to think that the terrorists behind the blasts had no religious or political reasons. Its just that I am talking about it. The reality does not change if I dont talk about it.

didn’t go thru the ur discussion with Shadows on this. but ur post was very true.. knowing from there own experience in govt that IB is not god to know everything in advance and how difficult it gets to tackle such situations.. i believe for once they can change their attitude and try a different line of showing solidarity with nation/govt.

BTW was quite occupied and came to ur blog after some time.. and this new look.. cool otherwise.. but this pink is very girlish!!

I know I know…I know very well, and understand all that you meant.
It’s just that….well, maybe it pisses me off more because such words and definitions have never meant a dime for me, and at times like this it really angers me beyond words because such useless excuses are enough to murder unsuspecting simple folk.
It’s not an anger directed at anyone in particular. I am just pissed.

Hi

Why are we apologetic about calling spade a spade?

I have been noticing that its become fashionable among modern liberals and centristist to say Islam is a religion of peace and universal brotherhood and its only the fringe elements who are bringing disrepute to it

I tend to disagree.Its crystal clear to any unbiased reader that their scripture sanctions use of force and violence against infidels
(for example how much ever Hindu fundamentalists deny,caste discrimination is rooted in the vedas.that is the truth)

What is required is brutal enforcement of irreligious,progressive,secular education by the government and enforcement of uniform civil code based on secular progressive principles

Toleraating this religious fundamentalist (whether its Hindu or Islam variety )is the first step towards destroying harmony in the society.Human being need to engage each other has rational and thinking individuals

I think we had enough of this bullshit that all religions preach truth/brotherhood.I am tired and sick of this rhetoric

My solution might be simplistic but there is no other alternative

Sooner the society realises that menance called religion needs to be eradicated,better it will be

And if the religion comes in the way of my country’ interests and growth,damn the religion(why do you bring religion in to Nuclear Deal-Muslims or Sangh Parivar trying to blindly support the Nepal King)

I think in India we are paying price for tolerance shown towards this blood thirsty assholes

BTW-I am quite suprised.For a change opposition party behaved in more restrained way.
Advani mentioned that its not the time to politicise the issue and refused to condemn the government on this particular incident
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14247669
Or sorry is it fashionable to condemn BJP to be truly secular.I am absolutely agahst at some of their regressive
elementsof their ideology.But give the devil its due

sorry but the first of the 10 commandments cleary tells christian and jews: “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me” (note its the first not the last!)
and the quran also says
“La ilaha illallah (لآ اِلَـهَ اِلاَّ لله) (There is no god but God)”

While the basics of hinduismus is “One God who takes many forms”

There is no misuse when christian, muslims or jews attack people that hold other believes. this is what is written in there religion. look at the israel/gaza look at islamophobia in europe, look at the US/iraq and US/Iran. Look in Indias history:
7th to the 12th centuries: Muslims came to kill hindus
14-16 century: Portugese came to kill hindus
16-19th century: Brits came to kill the hindus

I really admire tolerance but I’d say sometimes it is heavily misplaced.

Harsh , like you are sick of the religion and politics, I am sick of the same lame responses from the wimps in the Parliament.

They should be going hammer and tongs at the perpretors of the crime, cracking down on SIMI activists, taking some concrete actions like Gaurav Sabnis has suggested (installation of cameras on stations, metal detectors etc(though metal detectors wont work on rdx)), but what we instead get is a wimpy - “Please dont riot, we are secular” crap, and the dumb Indian media highlighting the fears of “minorities” after the blasts. Damn them, do they know that after many of us being killed, sympathy for muslims from govt and media is like mocking us. It actually increases the chances of rioting , given the fact that media and governments are not much trusted here. Its like rubbing salt on the wounds.

I tell you - There are going to be more such attacks in future, nothing has changed.

“Saluting the people of Mumbai and Srinagar for the speed with which they have returned to normal life, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Wednesday night said the war against terror will be won and that ‘no one can make India kneel.’

“This is not the first time that the enemies of our nation have tried to undermine our peace and prosperity. These elements have not yet understood that we Indians can stand united. That we will stand united. They have not yet understood that we will never let them win,” he said in an address to the nation over television.

Giving an assurance that government would extend all possible help to each of the families in distress, he said, “Mumbai stands tall once again as the symbol of a united India — An inclusive India.”

“Let me say, no one can make India kneel. No one can come in the path of our progress. The wheels of our economy will move on. India will continue to walk tall, and with confidence,” he said a day after terror attacks in Mumbai and Srinagar.”

I see what you mean, Shadow.

the above excerpt was taken from Rediff.

Solidarity for the innocent - Mumbai Blasts

Hi sakshi, i totally agree with what you said above. Politicians only make promises to improve certain conditions, when it is election time, in order to bank on the votes. By the way, can i be a part of your group? Could you please reply at the earliest. Thanks.

I completely agree. It’s sickening to see these polititians using every thing, including national disasters, to their political advantage. These people are no better than the “Ambulance-chasers” trying to make money out of other people’s misery!

Unfortunately, people who understand this political game are in the minority in India. Majority of the population does not take any of this into consideration when they go to the polls. But things are chaing… blogs like yours will help.

Sakshi,

Completely agree with you. Blaming the Congress is like blaming the Muslims for these attacks, but of course! Now, how is something I would be vry glad to know!

And I would be very glad to know which terrorist attacks in India have been followed by riots against Muslims? Please let me know. Thanks again.

July 13, 2006 10:35 IST
Two days after the serial blasts in Srinagar, four young people — two boys and two girls — were gunned down by terrorists in Magnar village in Poonch district late on Wednesday night.
A senior police officer said the terrorists opened indiscriminate fire in the village killing Lokesh Kumar (20), Pankaj Kumar (17), Priyanka Sharma (18) and Meenakshi Sharma (8).

The mother and sister of the two slain girls, who were seriously wounded in the shooting, have been taken to hospital.

– Rediff News

fuuuck the politcians ass. you can have a doubt on the Airline
owners who have vested interest.

Sakshi,

What riled me up was this reaction in the Blogsphere tha attacks against Muslim will follow. my question which no one has answered, we had 36,000 terrorist attacks, when have they been followed by attacks against Muslims? The point against not attacking Muslims is obvious that everyone ahress with it, and I am a lil piqued that instead of worring about catching the attackers, dealing with Pakistan, what we worry about is how Shiv Sena is going to do. As if that is our chief worry! No one damns them more than I do but I wont damn them just because one proves one’s credentials by doing so.

Second, someone has to take the blame. Obviously the government. What is it doing about preventing such attacks? Read the viewws of any anti-terror expert and he is damning the government. Yes, B.J.P was no better and to hell with them. Right now, they are not in power so I worry about what people in power will do because ultimately that is what will happen.

So, my request would be to stop worrying about anti-Muslims backlash and start worrying about more substantive issues like securing our borders.

And no, I don’t think the terrorists are idiots or chutiya, they know what they want and it seems we don’t.

Sigh!

hi sakshi, y don’t u reply to me? please reply soon.

But compared to US Homeland Security for example Shiv Sainiks seem to be rather peaceful people. If the Sainiks dont defend India who else will protect it? If the governement is unable to protect Hindu temples and does not prevent Terror attack I just wonder why Shiv Sena only has few supporters. I really admine pacifism and liberalism, but sometimes it would be more appropriate to show some realism instead.

If the governement is unable to protect Hindu temples and does not prevent Terror attack I just wonder why Shiv Sena only has few supporters

Njus,
I dont quite agree about Shivsena, but sure do agree about the temples part.
Many major temples in India are managed by the government, and temple priests are given paltry salaries. (No wonder they look for more money from the families for whom they perform the religious rites). Temples are under government control in India, by law.

While there is no such control on minority places of worship. They are free to do whatever they want, without the need to give any account of money, nor their activities.

It is such insults that make us piss on secularism and such sickening ideals. Even though I may not hate anyone, such acts leave us with no other option. Sadly enough, shivsena never has fought for this, when their leaders claim to be “hindu hriday samrats”. NOr has the BJP.

@Sakshi,
True.
But at the end of the day, secularism = suckularism to me. Whether these sena nuts do anything about it or not, its ultimately we who are insulted by such acts (like the case of temples described above) in the name of suckularism. Is being majority community members, a reason for giving us lesser rights and insulting us. Hey, I am a hot blooded male and I want the freedom to have four women. I want equal rights for me.

We know its all for vote bank politics. My point is - Even after realizing this, why do muslims in India fall for the trap. Indirectly, they are the ones creating resentment when they clamour for reservations, when they demand separate laws, special status, etc. Why dont they object to such pandering to minorities.

@Sakshi,
Yeah, True, there are a few good ones. Just this fact is something that prevents the situation from going bad in many many cases, when we are victimized. May their tribe increase.

Still doesnt change the big picture, anyway.

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