And Yes, Australia Is Racist.

The reason I am writing this post is NOT because of what happened in Sydney couple of days ago but for the only reason that I have noticed couple of individuals “bad-mouthing” the entire nation, just based on this one off incident. Just to make it clear, I am not saying in any sense that what happened in Sydney can be excused and forgotten but the whole object behind this post is to ask (few) intellectual people to stop forming judgment on this “country” on the basis of what is written in the papers and spoken by other intellectual individuals like them and to stop generalising the entire “Australian community” as being racist.

Firstly, I would like to ask them a very simple and most frequently thrown question these days, “What is Racism?”.

Is it, when you dislike a man who is brown ?? or is it when you only dislike him because he is brown?? From the posts I have read, they seem to believe racism falls into the first rather than into the latter category.

Agree, racism is not something new in Australia (previously the Redfern riots) but then it’s no newer than it is in France or the US or Britain or India. In India at times it’s even worse, forget the Hindu vs. Muslim rampages…we also have Hindu vs. Hindu too (Shiv Sainiks beating up the Bhiharis for taking up jobs in Maharashtra that they think so rightfully belongs to them). The bottom line is that Racism, even in subtle forms, exists everywhere. In Australia, they are actually less than in most countries and when they occur, they are generally matters of views rather than action.

Australia is a multiracial and extremely multi-cultural country. A large proportion of Australia’s population is overseas born or second generation Australians. They are from all of Europe, Asia, some Africa, some middle East and some South America. In recent years there have been high levels of immigration from Vietnam, India, China. However there is no history of clashes with these groups. They came and basically bought into being Australians, accepting Australian laws, style of public behavior, working culture, etc. As a matter of fact, most number of Australians are completely against the new-immigration policies and have regularly protested against the Australian government’s act towards the detention of ill-legal immigrants. One of their most favorite newsreader happens to be Ms. Indira Naidoo who originally hails from India. And yes, they do too have China Town, India Town and the likes.

The big change has been with the arrival of Muslims from the Mid-East, mostly Lebanese.

Some of them have refused to blend in. They have displayed active, overt racism against the mainstream Australian community (while quite happy to take Australia’s very generous social welfare payments).

Over a number of years, gangs of young mid-eastern men have terrorized parts of Sydney, attacking young males of other ethnic groups (including Indians), abusing and threatening women young and old. And this is something I say from experience and not from what I have heard or read. There have also been a number of horrific gang rapes of young Australian girls by these youths that have gone through the courts. One clear factor to emerge was that they had targeted these girls precisely because they were European origin, i.e. these were racist gang rapes.

The result of what happened after some lifeguards were beaten was largely because the local residents of Cronulla had finally had too much of the atrocities forced upon them by these gangs of mid-Eastern youths and had to do very less with the fact that these young men belonged to mid-Eastern countries. In the demonstration a few innocent people of mid-Eastern background were assaulted. But then casualties occur everywhere and in every situation of such magnitude.

However if you look at the larger picture, Australia and it’s people definitely are saddened and deeply hurt by this incident. What has happened is completely opposite to what most Australians believe and follow. And again, this I say after spending 8 years of my life in this ever-amazing country.

But yes…there is racism here, but to me it’s seems to be more one-sided. As long as these mid-Eastern Muslims (and they do have Muslims from other countries, such as Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh who do not behave in the same way) choose to become part of the community, the same way as every other race that has come to Australia, there will be no problem. As long as they do not, they create a threat of ongoing violence with (some) Australians who like them fall at the extreme end of the spectrum.

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symphoney
Dec 16th, 2005 at 1:42 pm | #

What happened in Syndey couple of days ago ?????

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anangbhai
Dec 16th, 2005 at 4:43 pm | #

I agree with Sakshi on this one, even if I am agreeing in a knee-jerk kind of way. My ex-girlfriend at college was from Mumbai and she used to go out with a Lebanese, and she went as far as to join the Lebanese SA at the college, but as soon as she went and met her boyfriend’s family she knew it was over because they treated her like a third class servant (most likely because indians/south asians do most of the menial jobs in the middle east).
And again, I’m not really generalizing here, and I’ll admit I’m not a full expert, but I do have to say that a lot of my indian/pakistani friends have lived in the middle east or were born there and the stories are no different. The working class attitudes towards westerners are just as ignorant and racist and vice versa.

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One African Woman
Dec 16th, 2005 at 10:47 pm | #

I follow such incidences closely and your take in this instance is quite interesting. It is true that it is only racism when judgements are made largely or purely based on the colour of the skin, I shall continue to give it some thought.

But tell me, when William Bennett hypothetizes (it’s late and conjugation may have slipped, indulge me), that your crime rate would go down if you aborted every black baby in the US, is he being racist or isn’t he?

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indian male
Dec 19th, 2005 at 12:03 pm | #

It is very unfortunate that such race riots happen in 21st century.We must have atleast certain amount of gratitude towards countries which gives us a chance to have a better life .It is deeply regrettable that people who migrate to other countries, afterwards turn against the adopted country.For exploiting the adopted countries wellfare system ,people has no doubt.But they are unvilling to even understand the coultre of adopted lands.For this situation to change,migration must be allowed only to people who are highly educated.And these people also must be acessed to know about their views on multicultaralism,multiracialism,multireligionism,liberalism ect.Those people who are averse to these concepts must not be given permission for permanent migration.It just takes commensense to understand that it is impossible for majority of people who comes from countries where regid religious concepts are held (muslims)to get adapted to liberal countries.

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Vulturo
Dec 23rd, 2005 at 8:14 am | #

Suggestion: Use less boldface, try to keep emphasis minimal, and emphasise using italics or arterisks. Boldface puts people off.

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eurasian londoner
Jan 9th, 2006 at 2:56 pm | #

saying that middle eastern youths “have displayed active, overt racism against the mainstream Australian community” is a touch dramatic dontcha think? isnt it possible these kids are expressing dissatisfaction against a society which regards them as scum, a common problem both in singapore and london (many somalian/ middle eastern kids in london give up on trying to intergrate with the white middle class cause guess what? the white middle class doesnt want them). alternatively, a lot blacks/middle easterns migrate to the most poverty stricken areas in london, hence they get involved with crime, s’not just because theyre ethnic.
australia has a hideous record on race. the country was founded on discrimination against native aboriginies and went on to treat chinese immigrants like shit (Lambing flat riots), even australians in london (first hand experience) are generally backward thinking yokels in comparison to man in the street here.
get a grip. australia has always been racist.

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snarf
Jan 11th, 2006 at 7:07 am | #

I agree with most of what eurasian londoner says - however, i do feel that raping or bullying people because you are
not accepted by the whites is wrong.

There is NO EXCUSE for hurting innocent people!

The solution as i see it is to study hard, earn more and prove that you are superior or equal!

Asian communities should unite and express themselves in a sane and rational way
eg: posting to the web, detailing specific incidence’s of racism by the whites, forming their own communities and
doing things that improve their image in western society (social service, helping the old, community service)!

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Aussie
Jan 22nd, 2006 at 9:15 am | #

Mate its simple if you come here you abide by OUR laws, OUR traditions, OUR way of life. We have got it so good in this country compared to many others and its as simple as if you dont want to be Australian your more then welcome to go back to where you came from… Religion is not a excuse to be diffrent, as soon as you cite religion/diffrent culture as reason to be treated diffrently people will not concider you “equal” and this is where all the problems start.

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Snarf
Jan 27th, 2006 at 3:55 am | #

Ref: “Aussie says : …iif you come here you abide by OUR laws, OUR traditions, OUR way of life.”

That statement seems to be ill thought out or racist.

I COMPLETELY AGREE with the “OUR laws” bit; however “traditions” and “way of life” differ, even among white-australians so what is the “Australian way of life”? What you mean is the “White Australian way of
life” since you seem to exclude the aborgines who are just as Australian, or are they?

Are you suggesting that ALL foreigners (caucasian, asian, african) adopt australian culture, tradition and way
of life if they wish to stay in Australia? Or does that rule apply to the non-white races?

In either case that rule would be silly not to mention impossible to implement. Why? Well consider the case
of Muslims and Jews. They don’t eat pork; however most aussies do. Now that is a religious and cultural
difference. Are they supposed to go back? Is that a reason for not being treated equally? Should he be
refused a job in Australia because he refuses to hog pigs?

I do beleive that you are being xenophobic! Xenophobia being: “Xenophobia denotes a phobic attitude toward strangers or of the unknown and comes from the Greek words ξένος (xenos), meaning “foreigner,” “stranger,” and φόβος (phobos), meaning “fear.” The term is typically used to describe fear or dislike of foreigners or in general of people different from one’s self. For example, racism is sometimes described as a form of xenophobia.”

And that’s the tricky bit - “different from one’s self” - because if you push it far enough - it means - a fear of
anyone not yourself!

Hitler was not far of the mark - he hated everyone! But was he wrong? The trouble is that it’s human nature
to hate and fear different genetic material! We form groups and then attack other groups to protect ourselves.
It’s easy to blame Hitler for all our sins!

Now lets assume all races were wiped out and only the white races existed! We’d still have racism!
The whites would segregate their own white-population and you’d stil have wars!

Oh we’d think up all sorts of excuses! Your eyes are not blue! Your ass is not the typical white ass!
You are “culturally” different!

The main question is this - Should genetic material different from yours exist?
Right now we need foreign genetic material to survive. Imagine trying to get along without plants or other
human beings - especially the female variety. But what if we could? Would we wipe out everything else?

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sandeep
Feb 10th, 2006 at 10:03 pm | #

Whatever people say australia is one of the most racist countries in the world.they have nearly made an entire race extinct. I am an indian who lived in australia for 4 months. Everytime you go to night club and ask an aussie girl out she rejects you simply becos you are indian. well dont think that makes me sad..i am jsut citing an incident. there is so much racism in australia against people from indian subcontinent. the only reason i can see is that “we are soft targets”. aussies are scared of being racist to lebanese..but towards indians..they know we wont do anything…thats it. and about lebanese.. i dont like them either. these arabs have a feelign they can rule the world with “violence and oil”..USA is really teaching them a lesson.

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Saurab
Mar 18th, 2006 at 11:43 am | #

I am a Indian Student studying in UQ, Brisbane for past 1 year. Australia is a fucking racist country. And I can justify my comments. The Australian Economy is booming due to large intake of international students like Indians. The Unis are depending on us for Funds. And they still don’t give even part-time work while we are studying here. They pretend to be nice but They are not. Australians are actually Shit of Britishers. I mean they were British Convicts. So they don’t have their own identity, History. The Government is asking people around the world to come to live and work in australia just to earn lots and lots of money on Visa Fees, etc. And you get nothing after coming here. I have so many Indians freinds who are still looking for work for the past 8 months even they are PR of Australia. They belong to Accounting field which is on the MODL of Australia. Then why these ausholes call us to study and work here when they don’t want to give us the Jobs. The reailty is that they are racist. In fact, the parents teach their childs here to be racist. But I must tell you, Indians are the Best in World and they will eventulally going to FUCK Australia, US and Britian in coming years and No one is in this world can stop them because Indians are the best……Wait for another 10-15 years then you will know who is the best……..

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tellis
Apr 1st, 2006 at 10:32 am | #

Muslims Arab or not have fled in to western Christian Countries fleeing Islamic oppression and they Intimidate and abuse the very people that give the support but how can you change the mind of brain washed people by dictators useing the Qu’ran Islam has been a cancer to every society but Most to Muslims them self’s they have been killing each other for 1400 years these are the facts about Islam and Muslims

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huss
Apr 2nd, 2006 at 3:23 am | #

it is just sad please stop this racism

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Prem
Apr 10th, 2006 at 1:02 am | #

Saurab is way over the top. Just because you’re unsuccessful in applying for jobs, doesn’t mean the country is racist. I’ve known many people who have been unsuccessful and I must say it’s just their fault. They dont try enough or they don’t do it the right way - the right way to present yourself for example. Pay me $500 and I guarantee you a job in a month’s time. :-P

Anyways I’m an Indian been here for 5 years and things have been good. Uni life was amazing with people much more accepting to all cultures. Work life has thrown me into the sea. There are all kinds of people you meet - some more accepting than others. Some put you down due to them thinking they’re superior due to many reasons, mainly this being their “home” and English being their native language. Aussies are aggressive people so they are not very forgiving if something pisses them off. They don’t compromise much but still are very open to all cultures. They grow up eating butter chicken at home too now. No country is 100%. Racism is everywhere. There are good people, there are bad people. Simple as that.

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aashish
Apr 18th, 2006 at 4:48 am | #

All i can say about australia is aussies are blody racists and this country is not their own , these white people are also living in aboregional’s country and the are exploiting
them too , this is redicolous, they dont have any culture that we can adopt, their way of living is like shit (just drinking bear all day and stealing things from shops!!!)
sorry aussies we are not intrested in your culture, and we ll not leave this country coz this is not your country and u ppl do not have any right to say like this.

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Snarf
Apr 24th, 2006 at 6:27 am | #

Re: the above
aashish: “these white people are also living in aboregional’s country and the are exploiting them too “

What do you mean by “aborginal country”? As long as you can fight for something and hold it, it’s yours. Sure the aborgines got wiped out; So what? It’s not a moral issue.Every day millions of bacteria and ants get wiped out by you; do you sit and cry over it? The reason you are bitching is because you are at the receiving end.

“we can adopt, their way of living is like shit (just drinking bear all day and stealing things from shops!!!)”

Well now maybe you should take a closer look:
1. Hard working, well organised and well disciplined.
Do you suppose they could have built a strong nation out of scratch through
sheer accident?
2. Not corrupt.

I mean this is total nonsense! We leave our country, go elsewhere, and then crib when we are treated badly. What did you expect? People to line the street and welcome funny little brown monkeys? I am Indian BTW so..

Obviously they aren’t happy about us and look down upon us.. You don’t see shiny
skyscrapers in India do you?

Look respect comes with strength. Not individual strength but national strength as well. Australian colleges need our money so they invite us over and take our money.
Only a idiot would think they’d be happy to part with their jobs!

Re # Saurab: “years and No one is in this world can stop them because Indians are the best……”
And this is the kind if ass we don’t need! WTF are we best at, Boasting?
What are we boasting about?

“Australians are actually Shit of Britishers. I mean they were British Convicts.”

So what if they were convicts? They WERE convicts. We ARE poor and weak as a group.
Might is Right, Sir! You can re-write history any damn way once you’ve won!
Not all Australians were convicts - go read up.

The trouble with Asians is that we are not a united lot! We blame the Muslims and stand by and applaud while some weird Chinese gets kicked around and vice versa.

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Snarf
Apr 24th, 2006 at 3:00 pm | #

Re #sandeep “I am an indian who lived in australia for 4 months. Everytime you go to night club and ask an aussie girl out she rejects you simply becos you are indian. well dont think that makes me sad..i am jsut citing an incident.”

I know Indians in the US who date and hump American women, and then dump them, and marry at home. No wonder Indian’s have a bad rep in some universities in America.

Obviously you ARE more than a little sad, or you wouldn’t have posted. Tell me something: If a African had asked a Indian girl out on a date, what would have been her response? We do have our own totem pole, don’t we: White skin at the top, then the Chinese, then ourselves, then the Middle East, then the Afro’s.

Don’t mis-understand what i am saying. Racism and stupidity exist every where, even among Indians and even among some of us who post here and whine about it.

eg: Saurab - “I must tell you, Indians are the Best in World and they will eventulally going to FUCK Australia, US and Britian in coming years and No one is in this world can stop them because Indians are the best……Wait for another 10-15 years then you will know who is the best……..”

eg: Sandeep - “about lebanese.. i dont like them either. these arabs have a feelign they can rule the world with “violence and oil”..USA is really teaching them a lesson.”

That’s the trouble with Asians, period. I used to wonder how the British managed to divide and rule us; Well, you have the answer! Indian blaming Muslim, that’s how it
starts doesn’t it?

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Snarf
Apr 24th, 2006 at 3:37 pm | #

A few more points:
1. Learn how to punctuate and spell properly. Lynn Truss’s: Eats Shoots & Leaves, is a great book; it’s simple and easy, reading.
2. Post concisely, even if you are pissed-off. It’s a lot more effective that way.
3. Don’t crib about how you are treated in the West. Asians aren’t the dominant race in town and even if we were, making the same mistakes that the West is making, is hardly the solution!
4. Quit treating the Chinese, Middle-Eastern and African nations as if they were a inferior lot! Indians are very good at preaching moral values to the rest of the world, while not applying any of those very same moral values back home, or anywhere else.
5. If you don’t like the heat in Aussieland, then either cart your ass back home, or
stretch wide. Whine-ing only pisses people off and you’ll only get it harder.
6. Don’t try to dis-associate yourself from your nation. You are Indian. You could be from IIT and be earning a 300K salary, but it doesn’t matter at all, to a white-toilet-cleaner in Australia. That toilet cleaner has a strong government and country backing him up and unfortunately we Indians don’t; Alas! we have only ourselves to blame for that!
7. Try to remember that the average Indian DOES NOT equate to the average white man, simply because the average Indians government does not equate to the average Australian government.

Try to visualise it thus: Your maid servant comes every day to clean your house; She is very punctual, honest, hard-working, polite, charming, sexy, got-a-nice-ass, got-a-tight-pussy, whatever! You’ll lay her, you’ll pay her, you’ll smile and talk to her, you’ll even invite her home and offer her tea, hell you’ll even tell her to be free and frank with you; but you won’t ever give her equal rights in your home and at the end of the day, when she has to go home, she’s still your maid servant.

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Mario
May 9th, 2006 at 2:03 am | #

I can understand the gang problem and the rapes. What I don’t understand is why the people had to take the law into their own hands. Some one needs to teach the Aussies the concept of Police force.

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paper cup
May 19th, 2006 at 2:27 am | #

Hi all
I think all of your guys are pretty much, oh well how do I put this fucked! Yeah sure the british did kick our arses when they took over our country (btw im a new zealand indian), and then they start raping all of our resources till its bone dry. Then once our country is fucked we immigrate over to their country legal (unlike them)then they mock the shit out of us coz we’re a different colour. Then when out parents who immigrated over here have kids and are citizens with accents and all and who play rugby we are still called curry munchers and told get the fuck out our country. Then these kids who turn up to be teenagers start falling in love with the local girls but they don’t want you because your dark and you penis is way to big anywayz. So what to do bout this whole situation. Well don’t worry bout it. THe world is alot more tollerent than it was say thirty years ago. Its true everybody hate everybody arabs hate asians, chinese hate indians, white people hate everyone, black people hates indian. So what to do what to do. Take everybody individually, ive got white mates, black mates, chinese, indian mates. Oh yeah for the “white aussie” chicks that reject you, would you really want to go out with a chick who judges a person on their skin colour, besides look on the positive side at least its easy to tell who the skanks are aye. Oh yeah the history thing bout the british making us into slaves. Well even when our resources were completely gone and the british were huge, well look who up in cummin baby! Looks like china and india economies are going to supersede the europeans and the US. THats the way to show them, we can be an empire without being a theif

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Snarf
May 27th, 2006 at 1:45 pm | #

“then they start raping all of our resources till its bone dry. Then once our country is fucked we immigrate over to their country legal”

Err.. Has it occured to you that we are one of the most corrupt nations in the world and that it’s our elected representatives that are doing the raping?

“Looks like china and india economies are going to supersede the europeans and the US.”
Err.. somehow i’m a lot more pessimistic about this; it’s a little hard to see your rosy utopia when we have no roads and corruption is ever increasing.

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smokey
May 31st, 2006 at 9:12 pm | #

“Snarf says that we do not have roads and corruption is increasing” . Wrong on roads/ infrastructure, right on corruption. But more people are being brought to justice than before and corruption is not as blatant as it used to be. Snarf… India IS going places.

I am an Indian and proud of it. But also ee should realize that whichever country we land up in we are the “foreigners” hence there always will be discrimination. (as we would do to people from other states in our own country).

Do your work well, behave decently, learn the local customs you will be well regarded. For heavens sake stop whining. Be a proud Indian.

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osho
Jun 2nd, 2006 at 8:12 pm | #

teach a new man, a new humanity, a new concept of being in the world The old man is on the deathbed: don’t mourn for it ― help it to die. Because only with the death of the old can the new be born. The cessation of the old is the beginning of the new.

My message to humanity is a new man. Less than that won’t do.Beware! Beware of your politicians ― they are all suicidal. Beware of the old conditioning which divides you as Indians, as Germans, as Japanese, as Americans. The new man has to be universal. He will transcend all barriers of race, religion, sex, colour. The new man will not be of the East or of the West; the new man will claim the whole earth as his home.

Only then can humanity survive ― and not only survive ― with the coming of a new concept of man…. The old is the concept of either/or: the new will be both/and. Man has to live a rich life outwards and a rich life inwards; there is no need to choose. The inner life is not against the outer life; they are part of one rhythm

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osho
Jun 3rd, 2006 at 12:14 am | #

BANGNIN n SNARF ???
Hey snarf can stop generalizing ppl like commodities or products and stop stereo typing people … every body different and unique …
You talking about Indians humping American chicks in uni ….excuse me what bout fret parties and are white guys saints lol some of American chicks dick tease and even are nymphos chicks but to be honest that’s the case in every nationality and society grow up huh? Basically they are horny men and dumb sluts in every race mate so chill….

If a two people don’t click I feel its not always got to do with racism sometimes even

ASTROLOGY. NUMEROLOGY AND PHILOSPHY AND PHYSCOLOGY economic backgrounds / common interest hobbies work etc might be the reason.
I traveled aus London California Italy France middleast and even India and because of my open mind I treat everybody as individual and don’t judge people with prejudice … for example I met Africans who are non violent, I met white guys who are violent abusive, etc I met white chicks who are sluts some who ent some Indians who love kickboxing and bodybuilding and don’t know jack shit about computers SO BASICALLY u get my point its to back dated to stereo type… I mean even- Bruce lee in Hollywood proved to the world the Chinese can be male lead and carry the movie … is not all chomp chomp with the chop sticks ….

And talking about grammatical mistakes what are you paying people to write this blog lol

THE GAME

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australian
Jun 28th, 2006 at 8:40 am | #

yeah hes right, its not what you are, its who you are, i think thats the saying. Australia basicly kills every other country, i mean we ain’t that racist. Some are a bit, but most don’t judge people by race but by appearance. Ya can’t stop that, im pretty sure. Hell, if u hate australia, and think its racist, either get the fuck out, or ……. i dunno. Its about having a fair go, everyone isnt equal, but treated according to how hard they work. We arent there yet, but we are a hell of a lot closer than other countries. Gotta love australia though, with the kebabs, spring rolls, pies and stuff. Really multi cultural, just some arrogent jerks gotta ruin it for the rest of us. And heck, im only 15

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racism bites
Jun 28th, 2006 at 8:50 am | #

well, i guess those english [colonisers] screwed up other countries pretty bad. YA can’t generalise em though, its mainly a few bad people who screw up their race [osama bin ladin, george bush, kaizer]. Well, its the past, and they sure as hell better pay for fucking up peoples countires. If they do it again, like try to screw over iraq for their oil, we have really gotta kick their ass. I mean, cmon. Saying they got WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION aint gonna justify ripping the oil outta their land. and hell, keep your replies coming. I need it for my discrimination essay. By the way, if you get rejected by an australian girl, it may not be because your race, maybe cause u picked someone outta your league, or you were so drunk you looked like a total idiot.

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andre
Jun 30th, 2006 at 2:49 am | #

Actually, most people in Australia (esp Sydney) who live in areas of most multiculturalism are not overtly racist.
I am not from Australia (Euro), I am married to a Chinese Australian (not born here), her brother is married to a Russian, his wife is Maltese…etc etc…and so it goes..

the ONE thing that all of us agree on though…and my own research confirms this…whether you’re Leb, Turk, Chinese , Viet, Italian, German, Australian etc..we all generally get along…BUT…..WE ALL HATE THE INDIANS…in their little old Toyota Camrys

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Ranajith Kumar
Jul 18th, 2006 at 2:08 am | #

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Athi
Sep 8th, 2006 at 5:50 am | #

Guys and Gals
Indians ,Aussies, Lebs, Africans, Whites ,Chinese or what ever you are…
lets all focus on the real problem….we all face in this country …its not Racism, cultural difference or what ever has been discussed here…..the problem faced by everyone is not race based…..

We all live in this stolen land that is full of natural resources that we can all enjoy. The people who stole this land are smart/smarter than average, they have developed this land and I believe that they now deserve to call it their own….

The society we live in Australia is very pretentious…everyone is looking for the smartest, sexiest, strongest, brightest and all of the above to love marry and have babies with……if you don’t fit it in to any of this then you will be targeted and abused….

If you the smartest, sexiest, strongest, brightest then no matter what you race is…Indian Lebanese etc you will be admired respected and spoiled.

How many Fat Australian people are harassed…etc you know what I mean….

Indians coming to Aus is a new experience…for both white Aussies and Indians….Indians also look and behave differently to Australians and so forth so the problem is not always one way….

What’s that’s missing is understanding….understanding of what Australian culture favors and what the culture hates…
If you like it or not they are majority so we all have to adapt to the ways of this land or any land where you are foreign…
I have been living in Australia for a while >20 years…and this is what I have found out.

1) Australian are Happy go lucky people.
2) They like to give everyone a faire go
3) When it comes to sports no matter if you are black/white/Indian/Chinese if you are good at sports you are looked upon with “GREAT” respect admired and spoiled.
4) They don’t like wingers, people who cheat take short cuts and up themselves….…again this can be anyone Australian whites, black/white/Indian/Chinese
5) As a society they have similar views to Europeans and Americans…i.e you have to be the smartest, sexiest, strongest, brightest for you to be accepted.

The problem all immigrants, all groups face is similar to what the African American faced when they were enslaved by the White Americans. They were subjected to more cruelty than we can ever imagine just because they look different. But what has happened now, they have changed the whole thing around…..now RAP R&B music is more popular than main stream than Country music.,…the Black American are considered sexy, smart and all the girls want ….them a LOT WHY????

Because they studied what main stream society wants and they delivered like it or not…so if all Indians assimilated….took more care about their appearances , worked out a lot and developed their body as well as their mind…..live happy then they will not be targeted rather they will be admired…..

I know lots of sexy Indian guys and girls who enjoy respected life here …..

They fit this model…
Smartest, sexiest, strongest, brightest, so Indian united if you want to be accepted then focus and deliver….believe me your situation will change….as did the African Americans….

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anamaye
Sep 8th, 2006 at 1:45 pm | #

This is kind of stupid it makes no sence 2 me. And is this really true because dats some stupid shit !

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Garr
Oct 9th, 2006 at 8:49 am | #

Is Aus racist? Yes, cos the average Aussie is racist. Make of that what you will. This is a personal opinion based in personal experience.
Now, is that a bad thing? That is the question to be answered, and the emotion associated with being called ‘racist’ is one of shame, apart from the Ku Klux Klan.
If your world view is not ‘One Human Race’, and in most cases its not, because everybody wants their own culture, and there is no ‘World Culture’(yet), then you have no choice but to be racist. It is the survival of the fittest concept all over. The strong will subjugate the weak. Why would they give up power?

So u have racism in Australia
India(the caste system)
Shias v Sunnis
Hindus Vs Muslims Vs Xtians
etc etc
Mainly religious differences, but in Aus you have people from different countries with different customs, languages(and so accents), ethics, etc.
In terms of real-life dynamics, the racism debate has come up because minorities in Oz are sufficiently powerful to begin doing something about it. It is no longer ‘If u dont like OUR country, go back where you came from.”
Look at the US story. This is not to threaten ‘true blue’ Ozzies, but black people in the US have been oppressed for ever. Now statistically most of the crimes committed are by them, almost forcing a sort of respect for them( dont mess with em black people, they gonna bust a cap on yo ass) The next argument by the ‘true blue’ is ‘why take em ‘black people(including indians) on in the first place?. The reason is that Australia needs the blood sweat and tears of immigrants if it is to survive. Not just labour, but skills.
Without immigration, Australia with its declining birthrate will vanish as a nation in the long term. We are here because you need us, not just because Australia has a better standard of life than India.Its a symbiotic relationship.

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chikna
Nov 25th, 2006 at 12:13 pm | #

I am from india and intending to migrate to australia. Is racism so rampant, as to reconsider my decision to migrate

Please advice

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sarah
Dec 2nd, 2006 at 12:28 am | #

i think racism comes from both sides but you cant blame the whole lebanese community for a FEW of the lebanese wrong doing an by you being totaly against lebanese your the one making the problem bigger. if you just give them a chance you would no that they are generally good people but you people refuse to give them a chance.indians have been insulted by every population but why dont you have anything to say about that is it because lebanese are in the spotlight an you want to make people think even worse.when everyone migrated here we were give the name WOGS by the australians so what does that mean… if we werent given that name they wouldnt have been racism.i am not lebanese an i dont agree with what they do or the gang rapings but you cant blame all of them.How many australian rapists like the priest who raped the kids or the teachers who rape there students or serial killers,the media dont put them on the spotlight do they but just because they have the name mohamed and are lebanese they dont stop putting it on the media. An incident occured a few weeks ago when some youths from werrabi did something to a disabled girl an raped her. they didnt do anything to them how shamefull is that and 3 years later there still mentioning the gang rapes. To rap up what i think i disagree with what the lady is saying because they are not all like that, an educated person would no that and instead of making the problem better we are making it worse by people like you provocing them.

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lndian dude
Dec 3rd, 2006 at 10:55 am | #

sarah the lebanese community is fucked up i think the bloody mulisms are very ugly terristism dude people. i hate the fucked up mulism lets join forces and kill the mulisms

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rocky
Dec 11th, 2006 at 4:33 am | #

i m livin g in australia for past 1 year and i havent experienced any kind of racism form australians they r good ppl while these middle eastern dick heads act hard and think they r cool but i have knocked out few of them in parra and will always do so hahahah arabs poor pppplll bloody terrorists
bloody ass holes kiilll em and in coming yrs i will continue killing them so dun wrry my australian ,indian ,chinese and other nat brothters me and my mates who hate arabs will wipe out their race out of this country

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rocky
Dec 11th, 2006 at 4:34 am | #

the muslim chick rt blooodd y ugly hahahah no one wants to go out with them hahahahahah ppooor ppppllll

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Him
Dec 29th, 2006 at 12:43 am | #

Hi everyone people come to Australia with “Great expectations”, thinking of what they see in hollywood/Bollywood movies that Australia is very affluent country with shiny skyscrapers and freeways and even toilet cleaner drives a Toyota and Hondas. But if you see Australia has a very narrow economic base, and dependent much on exports of natural resources and raw materials, its economy is even lags behind
countries like Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore ( Asian Tigers) which are dependent on export of consumer goods, technology and electronics. Where are the Australian Microsoft,IBM and Google?? Where are Australian Sony, Panasonic and TimeWarner??

Australian economy generates fewer jobs compared to UK and Germany and is nothing in comparison to US economy, even India is the world 4th largest economy with PPP running in trillions of US dollars but population of more than 1 billion makes much more people competing for limited resources which force the educated and skilled people to look overseas market for jobs. But my friends what always glitters is not gold, the White Australia policy has guaranteed that no people of colour participate in the decision making process governing Australia and therefore Australia has much remained an Anglo dominated country with little rights for coloured, indeginous and migrant populations in practice. There may be rules for equal opportunity in employment but they are not followed, there are rules for anti-discrimination but they are bypassed to promote white folks and their families.

The judiciary, police and government ensures that white people enjoy maximum
benifits and plum employment opportunities and coloured guys have to live on left over and scraps who is nobody willing to take. So stop expecting much from Australia and try to do well in India as India will guarantee you high paying jobs in the years to come with spectacular growth of more than 10% GDP per annum. Also there is no better altenative than to live along with your friends and families with no discrimination, in Australia most of the Australians have hostile and in-different attitude towards immigrants and they see them as threat and invasion to their culture and social security. So it is but natural that you invite trouble for yourself landing in this white dominated trashpit in Asia Pacific. Having said that I don’t mean to say that other people are saints you will probably suffer more racism in some Arab country, Malaysia or China who have little regard for individual freedom and human rights.

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Him
Jan 16th, 2007 at 1:02 pm | #

WHAT JEET BINDRA- CEO CALTEX AUSTRALIA HAS TO SAY ABOUT RACISM IN AUSTRALIA!
“Success follows when people come first” - these words are mounted in a frame on the wall behind the desk of the CEO and Managing Director of CALTEX Australia - Mr Jeet Bindra - our column guest for this month. Mr Bindra has been recently posted to Australia as the CEO of Caltex after serving the company for almost thirty years in the US.

After spending a long time in America, how are you finding Australia as a place to work and as a society to live in?

There is a misconception about Australians in USA that Australians are not very hard working people. I have not been able to find a proof of it as yet although I must say that there is much hierarchy in the work culture compared to USA. People are not comfortable approaching the CEO. There is a cultural gap between the juniors and seniors.

Australia has not yet assimilated the minorities represented in the community into the workforce. There are very few minorities in the executive positions. Australian male has not yet crossed the threshold in accepting women as equals and the talent of women has not been tapped to its utmost. There is also lack of encouragement to students in getting technical qualification. Recently Caltex had to look for technical expertise outside of Australia for some of our projects.

Q: Have you met many Indian Australians so far?
I have been to a few Indian functions but find the Indian Australians a very isolated society, mostly clinging to their own communities. I did not find many non-Indians at those functions, specially, Australians.

I do not believe in socializing merely with your ‘own people’. Unless we educate others about our culture we will not be able to gain respect from them. Hate crimes occur because of ignorance. As human beings, absence of information can mean the void is filled with negative thoughts. I believe in over communicating than under communicating

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Wrong
Jan 24th, 2007 at 3:21 pm | #

Thanks HIM for the conveniently edited version of that interveiw.
Here it is in full:
http://www.indiatoday.com.au/siom7.php

You know people, growing up in Australia, i’ve seen it all. Racism comes from EVERY sector, but it’s not so much amongst the white people, white racists are a minority here.
We have some of the largest populations of ‘minority’ groups in the world here. And because they close themselves off, and segregate themselves they feel as though they are being discriminated against, and they attack everyone in a offensive way due to a kind of paranoia. They still carry old world values, that mostly don’t even exist in their mother countries anymore, they only mix and marry with people of there own culture, etc, etc.
I’ve had endless conversations with Indians, asians, lebanese, greeks etc, etc. And they all tend to agree that the stigma of racism is something that they conjured up themselves, or perpetrated on other people themselves.

BTW Australians are not descendant from convicts. Infact very few convicts actually nominated to stay here when their time was up. (I belive the official figure was around 150 convicts who chose to remain). The rest was made up of free settlers, up until the gold rush in the 1800’s. The largest immigrating nationalities were English, Irish, Scottish and Chinese, with other nationalities arriving in the early 1900’s to the present day.

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FuckOz
Feb 19th, 2007 at 2:10 pm | #

Australia is racist. It has gotten much worse over the past decade, due partly to howards influence.

On the surface white aussies seem nice enough, but when it comes to the crunch you always see racism pop up. This is proven by howards long run as PM. here is a man who has cleverly built his whole political career playing the politics of hate. If you disagree with me please do some research. and if you still can’t figure it out then you are part of the problem

Fuck Howard, and fuck white australia. Why dont u go back to britain you stupids crackers.

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exaussie
Feb 24th, 2007 at 11:03 pm | #

Australia is a fucking racist country. I am of Turkish origin and lived there for several years, mind you I look European and I didn’t experience any discrimination in my social life(and they are so damn shallow in Sydney with empty brains) but didn’t I hear that white trash saying shit like bloody Asians this bloody Abbos that all the time! They had White-Australia policy up until recent times. I moved to London two months ago to be close to Europe and Turkey. London is a much harder place to live but with plenty more opportunities for people from any race and I heard from several British people that lived or travelled in Australia that Aussies are sooo racist! Every single English person actually told me the same thing over and over. “How did you actually manage to get a job there?” They ask me.. I go ” It took me bloody 6 years to score an OK job with uni degrees and several European languages and work experience” , the sort of job you would not even shit on back in Istanbul but walk into those offices in the Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane CBDs you will see those brainless white people sitting on their asses doing nothing all day, and they don’t even have university qualifications, walk into hotels you will meet those migrants from China,India and Thailand cleaning toilets and rooms and most have Accounting/IT degrees and some of them speak English better than your average Sheila and Dazza. It used to drive me fucking crazy! Glad I am out of it! Yes it is a damn easy country to live in even if you don’t work ,but do I ever miss the beach and the sunshine? NO! Never as hard as it may be in London. Because I don’t like the people in Australia. I can breathe the culture now, I can go to museums ,visit European cities on the weekends. And you know one thing they are good for? A great passport to have! :) I don’t need visas whever I go in the world, as “we” are known to be a wealthy and friendly (friendly my ass!) country. I like saying “we” when it comes to that, only!
Good bye Australia!

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Aussie boy
Mar 7th, 2007 at 8:55 am | #

Treat other how you expect to be treated.NEXT

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Mugabe
Mar 15th, 2007 at 1:35 am | #

If things are so bad there why do people still flock to it ? Coomon sense dictates that if one finds a place to be hostile then one should move to a less hostile country; unlessof course, one’s own parent country was more hostile :)

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Crocodile Dundee
Mar 15th, 2007 at 1:39 am | #

Do Australians suffer from an island mentality ? :))

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cjcs98
Mar 18th, 2007 at 2:48 am | #

C’mon peoplz. stop sayin australia is a racist country coz it aint. there are much worse places on this planet…i’m a sri lankan whoz been here for 14 yrs and i think its the best place to live…wudnt hav it any other way. Here in melbourne, all of us (whether we be SL, indian, chinese leb white arab wateva….we tend to get along juz fine)…i dunno …maybe its juz sydney wit all da problems…

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venkatesh
Mar 18th, 2007 at 12:38 pm | #

The most racist nation in the entire world in india. This is because of unusual mix. Let us accept the truth. India is a mix of actual indians(not so fair) and mixed breed(invaders mostly muslims + locals). Take the difference in features of people in punjab against TN, kerala or even bihar.

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rubella
Apr 10th, 2007 at 1:11 pm | #

Australia is a racist shithole if you apply for a white collar job they see following attributes: a) Skin Colour b) Hair colour c) Convict heritage d) Anglo Saxon/British refugee e) European white, if you meet the white skin and brown/blonde hair criteria you don’t need university degree or Australian experience on your resume. If you are white thug/convict you have better chance to make it big in corporate Australia/Politics/Government and Police services. If you are black, yellow or brown skin you are left to struggle for a scrap and left over positions which are either not filled by whites because they doesn’t have university degrees like healthcare jobs in rural and remote areas, or jobs they are not willing to take like public transport.

Socially white people never interacts with people of other races and you will find people of different races only socially interact with their own races, barring few exceptions. Discrimination is practised in every sphere of Australian life for example sports, not a single cricketer of Asian/Indian origin in Australian cricket team, All news readers on Channel 9, 10 , 7 & abc are White skin brown/blonde hair.

Australia is nothing but a ‘white trash’ where merit is sacrificed in order to promote undeserving white thugs from England.

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Lanka Boy
Apr 19th, 2007 at 2:42 pm | #

Australia IS A RACIST country, but the LEBANESE AND OTHER MUSLIM COMMUNITIES are an even more intolerant bunch. I have first hand experience with both. White Aussie racists are only racially intolerant. MIddle Eastern and Pakistani people are both racially and religiously intolerant. They piss infront of our temples, and the monks in our monestry keep telling us about a load of Lebanese women who keep spitting at them in the roads simply because they’re Buddhist.

Mrabic people look down even more than white people at the Aborigines. They don’t even follow theAustralian social convention of birth control - which are all stuff that we Sri Lankans normally follow to the dot. Pretty soon since the Lebanese all have 6 to 9 children due their Islamic compulsions and the government welfare system, EVERY other community will be a minority. Then everyone can expect Islamic law to be enforced, and you know the rest. Let the two extremist groups fight it out. The meek will inherit Australia - I.E.:- the nice white Aussies who smiles and gets along with everyone, the Aborigines, and the rest of the immigrants. Intolerants like the Arabs and all the racist whites can kill each other.

Just you wait, there will be an Islamic suicde bomb attack here in Australia pretty soon. When that happens, trust me it’ll be a Muslim thingy. If you white ignoramuses attack us NON-MUSLIM peoples also, you’ll just be pushing us into violence also. Just remember that.

And feel a touch of pity for the Aborigines. They are the original people of this land. Not whitey, not browny, and defintely not the Muslims. They’ve been reduced to a community of druggies and petrol sniffers by the great white Aussie. They need to be addressed and brought up before letting in anymore immigrants. And hell, why let in Arabs and Asian Muslims when you know they are not going to assimilate?

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nOTORIOS
Apr 27th, 2007 at 6:15 am | #

DAMN I THOUGHT THE UK WAS BAD, LOOKS LIKE OZ IS GOIN TO POT JUST LIKE UK.

HERE WE HAVE GOT MILLIONS OF PAKIS (MUSLIMS) HAVING FAMILIES WITH 5-8 KIDS, AND IN THE LAST 20 YEARS THEIR POPULATION HAS EXPLODED, WE NOW HAVE WHOLE CITIES UP NORTH (BRADFORD, LEEDS ETC THAT HAVE A MUSLIM MAJORITY OVER WHITES!!!

I THINK WHATS GONA HAPPEN IS AUSTRALIA IS EXACTLY WHATS HAPPENIN IN THE UK NOW, UR JUST 15 YRS BEHIND.

FUKIN MUSLIMS CAUSE SO MANY PROBLEMS IN THIS WORLD WITH THEIR LACK OF ACCEPTANCE AND SUPERIORITY COMPLEX (THEY THINK WE ARE ALL INFIDELS AND BELOW THEM)

I’M INDIAN BY THE WAY BORN IN UK, AND I’M DEFO NOT A RACIST, I HAVE FREINDS FROM ALL COMMUNITYS, MY VIEWS ARE GENERALISATIONS OF COMMUNITIES AS THERE IS GOOD AND BAD IN ALL.

BY THE WAY, I HAVE BEEN TO AUSTRALIA A FEW TIMES RECENTLY AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM PULLING WHITE AUSSIE CHICKS - AS LONG AS UR GOOD LOOKIN AND SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH (BRITISH ACCENT HELPS!) THEN THE PUSSY IS THERE TO BE HAD - THOSE GUYS WHO SAID THEY CANT PULL WHITE CHICKS ARE PROBABLY FRESHIES OFF THE BOAT FROM INDIA WITH DODGY STYLE, ACCENTS AND B.O.

PEACE

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ramesh
Dec 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pm | #

This forum has been quite an eye-opener. I’ve met a few Aussies before and indeed, found them incredibly racist. Even though they appeared nice with me (and polite), I could sense that they didn’t like my presence in their company. And I’m not your stereotypical rustic from a village in India -I’m clean with nice hair-cut and take shower daily and spend a lot of money on body care products. Also, my manners and communication style is not the least bit rude, unfriendly and I never ask personal questions. I just get along fine with EVERY other ethnicity/nationality on Earth.

After meeting these Australians, I felt something like maybe all whites are like that. It’s only when I interacted with Europeans and Americans I understood that they can be amazing people. It changed my mind and I came to realize that the fault lies with “Australian culture somewhere”.

My friends suggested me to complete my graduation in Australia but I’m not keen at all. I don’t want to be in a country which treats me like a second-class citizen on the basis of my skin colour. I won’t even ever consider travelling to Australia (on a transit flight).

I hope all the crackers in that land f-uck their kangaroos all day around and Indians should go and profit from their lazy @sses.

FUCK Australia

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Eliminate Racism
Dec 23rd, 2007 at 8:23 am | #

Anglo - Saxon Australians are filthy, dirty, disgusting racists. You Anglo - Saxon Australians complain about how the Lebanese Gangs brought all this violence and racism into Australia, yet you Anglo - Saxon Australians commit the majority of crime and especially racism in Australia.

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Anonymous
Dec 30th, 2007 at 11:13 am | #

BY THE WAY, I HAVE BEEN TO AUSTRALIA A FEW TIMES RECENTLY AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM PULLING WHITE AUSSIE CHICKS - AS LONG AS UR GOOD LOOKIN AND SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH (BRITISH ACCENT HELPS!) THEN THE PUSSY IS THERE TO BE HAD - THOSE GUYS WHO SAID THEY CANT PULL WHITE CHICKS ARE PROBABLY FRESHIES OFF THE BOAT FROM INDIA WITH DODGY STYLE, ACCENTS AND B.O.

The Aussie chicks would have sex with anything in their path so dont talk like you’re special. Those banana or plastic sticks/poles have done it with those chicks 100X more than any of you.

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What?
Jan 10th, 2008 at 12:11 am | #

Australia is not racist. I’m a white Australian, although i like to call myself an Australian, colour has nothing to do with being Australian. I have seen some racism, been called racist things. A crazy guy yelled some racist stuff at a poor Taiwanese couple and it startled me as much as them. He ran away and I apologized to them for the insult. This is the type of person who would tell an Australian Aboriginal to get out of the country (obviously a crazy idiot)

Unfortunately there are people in Australia who are from a poor socio-economic background or plain dumb or crazy or country yokels, who are brought up believing all their troubles are from foreigners entering the country.
I guess these types are in all countries across the earth and unfortunately no one with half a mind has set them straight and told them the world doesn’t revolve around them and that life is too short to hate on people.

Even if my friends say stupid things remotely racist,sexist,ageist ill box their ears and call them racists shitheads for saying racist jokes or generalizing about people or cultures.

Also to answer some of the above problems.
1, Pulling girls is hard for everyone (expect for the tall, handsome, foreign accent type) plus i know for a fact girls like an exotic guy, not the other way around.
2. Jobs only go to the white people. GTFO (get the fuck outta here) been 2 yrs outta uni i cant find a job and not for the lack of trying, its just some jobs are hard to find, you gotta keep trying till you click with an employer.
3. If you have come across the crazy/dumb/country Australian racist I’m sorry, plus take heart they are a dieing breed.

P.S I notice all the people moaning about racism have never described themselves as Australians. It would convince me more that Australia was a racist country if there was an Australian with a foreign background coping racism, compared to most of the tourists above who seem to have generalized all Australians from one bad experience.

Quote Above:
“Even though they appeared nice with me (and polite), I could sense that they didn’t like my presence in their company.” -Maybe they were being nice and polite most Aussies are.

Cya all.

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Eliminate Racism
Jan 10th, 2008 at 2:10 am | #

Hey What. How do you explain this:
1. United Nations says Australia is the only Western Nation with racist governments
2. 30,000 racists participated in the Cronulla Beach Riots. Only 2,000 people in Sydney participated in the anti - racist rally
3. Tampa Boat Crisis
4. Mandatory Detention
5. Needle shots for Refugees
6. Aboriginal Deaths in Custody
7. Children Overboard
8. Why does the term “Australian” or “Aussie” only apply to Anglo-Saxons in Australia
9. Many Anglo-Saxon Australians say the Cronulla riots were not racist. If you attack people on the basis of their race, chant racist remarks, and write racist slogans, then you have a race problem
10. Australia’s White Australia Policy was only demolished in 1975. You can’t become a tolarent Nation in only 30+ years.
11. Only a little over 200 police at the Cronulla Riots. 2,000 police against the Revenge attack.
12. Lebanese Gang Rapist gets 55 years for raping Anglo-Saxon Girls. Anglo-Saxon Man gets only 7 and half years for killing an Aboriginal Man in Port Hedland, Australia
The list could go on and on.

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forest cat
Jan 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am | #

Aussies are always looking for scapegoats. weather be asians, blacks,
muslims. The white australia mentality is still rampant. The gov is also
very hyprocrisy and talking about “FAIR GO” and other values to cover
the ugly reality. This trend will go on forever. However the racism coin is
double sided, third world migrants are generally very weak minded and
put up with all the abuse and this excesebates the arrogance of some
aussies. Also aussies are very proud of their big bro america and right
now that country is screwing the whole third world so you see the point.

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Muslim
Jan 12th, 2008 at 3:10 pm | #

Please read this, Racists = non-educated. I notice that too many brain-less people come here and pass their crap about about Islam and middle eastern people. Muslims study about other religions and have a clear idea about them. However, we don’t hate neither act negatively about other religions. It’s just the the fucking media is controled by fucking people who are racists, tending to distort the picture of Islam. Others have their self-deception. If these people are educated, they wouldn’t generalize terrorism under the name of Islam. Keeping in mind that it’s an american strategy to dominate the area and steal the oil, as it’s known that Osama bin laden workin for them. Islam has eliminated racisim since its begining, wanna a prove for that read the history of Islam. Also, if you’ll go to any Islmic country they won’t notice the colour of your skin. If there’s no racisim in Australia, we wouldn’t have this article existed. I believe that some of the old generations tend to teach their sons and doughters to be racists as well as the capacity of an australian brain fit only 6 national chanel that control their way of thinking. My message for every smart, read between the lines, think critically and don’t base facts on what you think. With all respect to all.

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Jim bean
Jan 20th, 2008 at 12:29 am | #

All I can say is that OZ is racist but I live i nthe Deep south of the us of a and it is a nightmare. Racism is socially acceptable here and the thing that makes OZ different is the fact that at least in OZ the racists dont always try to hide their racism and convince everyone that they are actually loving individuals. Where I come from, the racists hide behind a mask of lies and have ignorant (blacks/Asians) go along withthe show in order to get $$. They help to perpetuate the myth that “everything is fine” despite the reality being quite the contrary. Also the racists in the deep south of america run the show, these are people who in other societies would be the scum of humanity however, they have money here and own everything. Thus this gives them the power to declare themselves all powerful. The state of Georgia in particular is very ruthless do not believe the lies of the “new south”. There is no such thing. Just remember that many of the systems of inequality were born here i n the south. Jim crowism was the blueprint of south african aparteid. The KKK set the pattern for every hate group on earth including the skins. OZ may have its problems but at least it isnt the deep south. As for Australian women, well… to this day not one has ever attempted to get to know me. They have always dealt with me in a rather insulting way. Thus is why I have no respect for them. But then when you look at their history. How can the Australian in any kind of way declare themselves ‘righteous’???

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Eliminate Racism
Jan 21st, 2008 at 9:43 pm | #

To Jim bean. Anglo-Saxon racism in Australia is actually a lot worse now than in the past. Just read my last post. I do know the deep south of the US is really racist. Your right that Anglo-Saxon Australians do not hide their racism. The worst thing is that when they do show their racism, after they always say their not racist, or their actions had nothing to do with racism. When other races, religions, etc. accuse them of being racist, they create the biggest warcry.

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Andy
Jan 28th, 2008 at 8:40 pm | #

I’ve noticed all the people complaining about racism in Australia have a terribly poor grasp of the English language. Perhaps if you spoke English, you wouldn’t be treated so poorly. The fact of the matter is Australia does not have to accept the misogynistic ways of Muslim extremists.

Furthermore, every group of people on the planet is guilty of exterminating another group. South African Bantus nearly wiped out the Khoisan before Europeans came to attempt to do the same to the Bantus. Homo sapiens in general wiped out neandertals and Homo habilis. You can’t blame modern humans for what past humans have done. If you don’t know your history, you are destined to repeat it. Indians who think Indians are superior probably have another thing coming when they try to live outside India. Americans who think American are superior are treated likewise.

I see a lot of anti-Australian racism in the comments on this page. As an African American, I also see a lot of anti-American racism perpetrated by immigrants to the US. When foreign students can’t find their niche in America, they blame racism. I am not denying that systematic racism exists world round, but if you can’t conquer it, you’re just playing into the role of victim.

Extremism and intolerance are insidious aspects of pride, and when one moves to a foreign country, it’s time to put those things away. At the end of the day, more than 25% of Australian citizens are foreign born. This statistic blows the US (6%), Canada (11%), and the UK (17%) away. Would a racist country be so willing to accept that 1/4 of its population is not native?

We all face adversity, it’s how we react to the challenge that defines us. Muslims riot worldwide at the sight of a silly comic of Mohammed with a bomb under his headscarf. This is completely ridiculous given the number of equally “offensive” comics regarding Jesus / Christians or Jews. I don’t think that a backlash against this behavior is completely unwarranted and I am personally offended at anyone’s claim that the west needs to “be more sensitive” to Islam. Muslims need to perhaps grow thicker skin to survive in a globalized society.

Anyone who thinks America is better is dead wrong. All America has is more racism and fewer immigrants.

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Eliminate Racism
Jan 29th, 2008 at 6:46 am | #

Anglo-Saxons are immigrants or descendants of immigrants themselves. Aboriginals have been in Australia for thousands of years, Chinese have been in Australia for over 200 years, Middle Eastern have been in Australia for over 200 years, Anglo-Saxons have been in Australia for a few hundread years, as well as many other nationalities that have been in Australia for the last 100 years or more. All non-Anglo-Saxons in Australia have just of much of a right to be in Australia than Anglo-Saxons. Anglo-Saxons should stop acting as if Australia is only their country because it is not. The Muslim Religion has a longer history in Australia than Christianity as I have read many articles about this.

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Eliminate Racism
Jan 29th, 2008 at 6:56 am | #

Muslims and Arabs are the most racially discriminated groups in Australia. It seems that most of this racial harassment against Muslims and Arabs is coming from Anglo-Saxons. Muslims have been racially abused since they started immigrating to Australia. No wonder Muslims and Arabs like the Lebanese Gangs dislike Anglo-Saxons. Anglo-Saxons should treat others with respect if they want to get it in return.

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Rommel
Feb 2nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm | #

Hey people how u doin,
Well, Im an overseas student doin uni in aus and i find aus some how good coz i go with friends and hangin out with those from my ancestry coz listen australians are RACIALS…yep aus is racist, coz ive been noticin this since i came a few years ago, but judgemnts can be wrong sometimes but the majority of australians are not friendly like americans or Irish. You can find good aussie friend but what they want from u is just 2 stay away they say yeah we r friends but do not be very close to us…yep, this is whats goin on here.

Keep smilin

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Ken
Feb 4th, 2008 at 3:36 am | #

I was discussing the 2nd Cricket Test Match played at the Sydney Cricket Ground in Jan 2008 with a white caucasian colleage at work, after a couple of minutes a Senior Manager of white caucasian background, unvitingly joined the conversation and immediately raically abused and villified me by yelling “Your Mother is Black” twic in less than ten seconds.

From my experience in Australia, I find this the most racist country on eart

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Sonu
Feb 6th, 2008 at 5:48 am | #

Australia is a really wonderful country but if you’re an Indian/Pakistani/Persian/Arab male, you may not like it much because Aussie White girls, in my experience are pretty much discriminaing against particularly, these ethnicities -except of course immigrant White girls from countries outside the Anglosphere who can be different because they don’t think much in English and are more pleasant to deal with. I did have a great time in Australia as working professional but whenever I tried to hit a girl in a nightclub/beach, she would tell me off with something like (now I believe they’re kinda funny):

“Go find someone of your colour”
“Look you fuken terrorist just go and blow yourself up leave me alone”

Not that those girls were racist because we’d often see them wrapped around Abo’ men…they would rather date Black/Africans than Indians.

This initial resentment may be due to the fact that these girls perceive all Indian/Pakistani/Persian/Arab males as chauvinist pigs….because of our culture…also our communication style seems to piss them off.

The only success I had in Australia was with prostitutes and slutty women. None of the decent girls gave me time of the day. I was really disheartened. I’ll never return to that country ever, not even for holidays.

But yes, in general I agree Australia is not a racist country. Especially if you’re an outdoors person you’d love it…just avoid the girls on the beaches if you’re Indian…you’ll get laid more often in your own country

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J dogg
Feb 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm | #

I am 1/2 Scottish/ 1/2 Creole I have been living in NYC my entire life and have never traveled further east than Austria. I can tell you this I have never been to Australia but I have heard some abhorrently racist shit from the few Aussies I have encountered at the occasional party. One of them started a rant about aboriginal people. I am highly educated. I politely admonished her verbally for a few. As the night wore on she took a liking to my wily mulatto ways; came home with me…gave me head and then I fucked her up the ass. The only overseas racist incident was in Graz Austria. Some drunken fool started some shit but the crew I was with shut him down. That seemed to be a rather racists country as well as they had billboards telling the populace not to feed the Bosnian refugees as the war was in full swing at the time. And once again… I met some girl named Birgit and stuck it in her butt. I think you Indian fellers aught to be less geeky and more of a thuggish player such as myself and you will be stretching white ass in no time. Funny that the two most confused national monikers denote racist countries where the bitches will hate on your race and still let you stick it in their butts after a few cocktails.

One thing I can tell you about Indians in the states…. their parents are racist, elitist, spunk bubbling old-world ignorant bitch munchers. I DO NOT LIKE BEING LOOKED AT LIKE I STOLE SOMETHING IN THEIR CORNER STORE while in the meantime it will be me throwing their kid’s resume in the trash!

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TopEndMixBlood
Feb 13th, 2008 at 8:21 am | #

‘Eliminate Racism’…..your name would indicate noble ambition but by the sounds of your posts perhaps a better one would be “Lets Get Even With White Folks No Matter What The Cost’”. A little wanky but that in itself would no doubt make it even more relevant hey?

Firstly there is not one type of white (adjective NOT noun) Australian anymore than there is one kind of human. There are various social levels here and within those stratas you have educated pleasant people, educated unpleasant people, uneducated pleasant people and so on. And then there are those who are just plain hard to read…just like all ‘races’. To those of you from abroad who have had a hard time here and want to blame ‘The Man’, I say grow up. This is the real world. No matter who or what you are, you will encounter people who don’t accept you, could be because your not white, could be because you’re not Christian, could be the opposite, could be that your fat and ugly. On the other hand, maybe they just noticed the giant chip on your shoulder and thought “if we hire this guy, he’s probably gonna spend half his day on internet forums complaining about his inability to get laid.” Hey, I’m just saying its possible…maybe even probable with some of you whiny b!tches.

Now I’m an Australian in every sense of the word. I put this country first and above all others, not because I think its better but its the place that spawned me, and until this world does away with borders I place my allegiance here. My ancestry is a combination of (in order of percentage not priority) Irish, Scottish, Aboriginal, Italian and Afghani. In all fairness this mixing all took place more than 80 years ago so I haven’t a lot to say about the ‘migrant experience’, but I’m assuming this forum is about racism not ‘originism’.

Now to any white Australian who tells a non white Australian whether they were born here or not to ‘go home’ , I can only say ‘get over yourself you insecure fuck, you’re embarrassing the nation and yourself’. That said, to any new arrival here who refuses to acknowledge the work that white Australians have put into this nation over the last 200 years by saying ‘you’re just convict migrant scum’ I would remind you that the continent of Australia had been noticed by SE Asians through contact and the rest of Asia though trade long before the whites ever turned up. The difference is that no other nation wanted the job of civilizing this giant desert island full of spiders, snakes and black dudes with spears, so it was left alone.

It wasn’t until the British (through the blood of many Aborigines, pioneers and convicts) carved this place into an attractive nation that it became the migrant destination that it is today. Don’t confuse the term pioneer with that of the generic migrant.

Everyone should feel welcome here, but there is respect needed on both sides of the fence. Migrants are humans too who are driven by the same basic emotions and priorities of those already here, and should be treated likewise. However, no matter how much some of you new arrivals ridicule the ‘lack of culture’ in Australia…..it was you who moved here not the other way around, and some acceptance and willful adaptation to the ways already established here by generations of different sorts of people is required. Enough of this sulky teenager attitude. Get over it, or do what real men and women do when they are unhappy with a system….revolt! Organise a resistance, get weapons from the Cubans, throw a coup!! Sound like too march hard work? A little too dangerous….or perhaps its just counter productive considering the reasons you moved to a safe country like Australia in the first place. Hhmmm, perhaps theres something in that hey?