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		<title>By: jess</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2005/09/22/fight-against-child-marriages-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-155006</link>
		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all of this places and the parents  that allow this to happen are sick and need to be in jail
they don&#039;t under stand the damage that there are doing to them they are being rape beaten 
&quot;THEY ARE MONSTERS OR WORSE&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all of this places and the parents  that allow this to happen are sick and need to be in jail<br />
they don&#8217;t under stand the damage that there are doing to them they are being rape beaten<br />
&#8220;THEY ARE MONSTERS OR WORSE&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: To Each It&#8217;s Own &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mr. Gorky&#8217;s suggestions for &#8216;Gender Equality&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2005/09/22/fight-against-child-marriages-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-3163</link>
		<dc:creator>To Each It&#8217;s Own &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mr. Gorky&#8217;s suggestions for &#8216;Gender Equality&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Off lately I have been writing a bit about Issues and Laws concerning &#8216;women&#8217; in India. They have been on critical&#160;topics&#160;such as&#160;Child Marriage, Laws Governing Rape, Importance of Marriage Certificate, Domestic Voilence&#160;and Women being used as commodity by the advertising&#160;media. I have also written on Successful Women, who&#160;have&#160;become&#160;a role model for many, men and women in our country. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Off lately I have been writing a bit about Issues and Laws concerning &#8216;women&#8217; in India. They have been on critical&nbsp;topics&nbsp;such as&nbsp;Child Marriage, Laws Governing Rape, Importance of Marriage Certificate, Domestic Voilence&nbsp;and Women being used as commodity by the advertising&nbsp;media. I have also written on Successful Women, who&nbsp;have&nbsp;become&nbsp;a role model for many, men and women in our country. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is talking about what happens to a child girl after marriage, I have just one question - donâ€™t you guys think every girl marry to a boy who is also child. What about his right? Does anyone care? How he&#039;d study? How he&#039;d support his family? How he would take responsibility of the whole family at such a young age? What about his Human Rights of consent of marriage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is talking about what happens to a child girl after marriage, I have just one question &#8211; donâ€™t you guys think every girl marry to a boy who is also child. What about his right? Does anyone care? How he&#8217;d study? How he&#8217;d support his family? How he would take responsibility of the whole family at such a young age? What about his Human Rights of consent of marriage?</p>
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		<title>By: loraine</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2005/09/22/fight-against-child-marriages-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-1843</link>
		<dc:creator>loraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it is unfair that girls especially uderaged should have to go through this tramatic stage in many countries were they are sent/forced to get married. i would just like to say that the government should do something instead of sitting on there cosy seats in the parliment with there heads held high and actually do something to try and convince parents of all religions to try and understand the right for there daughters to be educated especially since men have been populating the families for so long. i speak for those who cannot and for those who are not heared or even listened to, what would this world be like if every women/child over the age of 5 would be married of and there right for education sealed. it is injustice and inhuman to push us woman to aside where we are not heared so that we cannot defend ourselves against the cruel use of abuse and inappropriate means against us. i might not even be heared  by more or less than 10 people over a possible million who surf these sights but to those who do come across this message i would just like to say that you might think nothing is possible right now but a bit of courage and faith can help you stand tall to those you rather not look at. As the  people of this nation and every other nation i ask my fellow people to try and push your rights forward so not only you but also others can be heared.  Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it is unfair that girls especially uderaged should have to go through this tramatic stage in many countries were they are sent/forced to get married. i would just like to say that the government should do something instead of sitting on there cosy seats in the parliment with there heads held high and actually do something to try and convince parents of all religions to try and understand the right for there daughters to be educated especially since men have been populating the families for so long. i speak for those who cannot and for those who are not heared or even listened to, what would this world be like if every women/child over the age of 5 would be married of and there right for education sealed. it is injustice and inhuman to push us woman to aside where we are not heared so that we cannot defend ourselves against the cruel use of abuse and inappropriate means against us. i might not even be heared  by more or less than 10 people over a possible million who surf these sights but to those who do come across this message i would just like to say that you might think nothing is possible right now but a bit of courage and faith can help you stand tall to those you rather not look at. As the  people of this nation and every other nation i ask my fellow people to try and push your rights forward so not only you but also others can be heared.  Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sarbajit</title>
		<link>http://sakshijuneja.com/blog/2005/09/22/fight-against-child-marriages-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>sarbajit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compulsory registration of marriages has its own legal problems.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Why dont you also delve into matters like how in Maharashtra and Gujarat (the old Bombay State) - Hindu men can still marry multiple wives and get these marriages legally registered - and the Hindu Marriage Act has not been fully enforced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compulsory registration of marriages has its own legal problems.</p>
<p>Why dont you also delve into matters like how in Maharashtra and Gujarat (the old Bombay State) &#8211; Hindu men can still marry multiple wives and get these marriages legally registered &#8211; and the Hindu Marriage Act has not been fully enforced.</p>
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		<title>By: Charu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi, child marriage is a very common and accepted practice in many sattes. and the government refuses to intervene in any way - even pass and implement stringent laws saying it is a matter of the &quot;culture&quot; of the people - uh, what culture? clearly it is not about culture but about politics and vote banks...&lt;BR/&gt;Rajasthan is one of the worst states on all development indicators. read this recent article on the same issue - about a wman who was married at the age of 3 - a survivor and fighter - http://indiatogether.org/2005/sep/ksh-child.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakshi, child marriage is a very common and accepted practice in many sattes. and the government refuses to intervene in any way &#8211; even pass and implement stringent laws saying it is a matter of the &#8220;culture&#8221; of the people &#8211; uh, what culture? clearly it is not about culture but about politics and vote banks&#8230;<br />Rajasthan is one of the worst states on all development indicators. read this recent article on the same issue &#8211; about a wman who was married at the age of 3 &#8211; a survivor and fighter &#8211; <a href="http://indiatogether.org/2005/sep/ksh-child.htm" rel="nofollow">http://indiatogether.org/2005/sep/ksh-child.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarbajit : I completely agree with you...about registration of marriages. As for multiple marriages of handful of Hindu men...its just disgusting. There is simply so much corruption in the system..even if the Hindu Marriage Act is fully enforced...i doubt that it would make much difference. Things seem to work...only when the party i.e.the women involved take a stand against the injustice done upon them.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Charu : I had seen Uma Bharati&#039;s interview couple of months ago...i think around the time of Akhateej festival in Rajasthan...i couldnt believe the reasons that women was giving in support of child marriages. I completely agree..its all done with the goal of pleasing the un-educated public...and fillin up the vote banks.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for the article link. I also heard about a 11 year old Muslim girl..in West Bengal..who on her own went to the local police station to file a complaint against her inlaws and husband. She has been nominated for the &#039;Bravery Award&#039; this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarbajit : I completely agree with you&#8230;about registration of marriages. As for multiple marriages of handful of Hindu men&#8230;its just disgusting. There is simply so much corruption in the system..even if the Hindu Marriage Act is fully enforced&#8230;i doubt that it would make much difference. Things seem to work&#8230;only when the party i.e.the women involved take a stand against the injustice done upon them.</p>
<p>Charu : I had seen Uma Bharati&#8217;s interview couple of months ago&#8230;i think around the time of Akhateej festival in Rajasthan&#8230;i couldnt believe the reasons that women was giving in support of child marriages. I completely agree..its all done with the goal of pleasing the un-educated public&#8230;and fillin up the vote banks.</p>
<p>Thanks for the article link. I also heard about a 11 year old Muslim girl..in West Bengal..who on her own went to the local police station to file a complaint against her inlaws and husband. She has been nominated for the &#8216;Bravery Award&#8217; this year.</p>
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		<title>By: chappan</title>
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		<dc:creator>chappan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakshi&lt;BR/&gt;Very  touching writeup indeed.What are the staistics for child marriages in India ? Do you have any idea ? Why dont the various Nari orgs. that work there make some noise abt it, just like they did with the Sati situation.&lt;BR/&gt;This is preposterous, especially the story abt the girl in Andhra.&lt;BR/&gt;Sourin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakshi<br />Very  touching writeup indeed.What are the staistics for child marriages in India ? Do you have any idea ? Why dont the various Nari orgs. that work there make some noise abt it, just like they did with the Sati situation.<br />This is preposterous, especially the story abt the girl in Andhra.<br />Sourin</p>
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		<title>By: Sakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sourin : There are no excat stats..that i cud find. However this is what i read in an article...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Statistics are elusive, but estimates are that 40 to 50 percent of marriages in India involve a girl under 18 or a boy under 21, the legal ages for marriage.&lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;According to Unicef, 82 percent of girls in Rajasthan, where the practice is particularly widespread, are married by 18; 15 percent of girls in rural areas across the country are married before 13; and 52 percent of girls have their first pregnancy between 15 and 19.&lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;Child support agencies catalogue the dire consequences that follow early marriage, particularly for girls: The child&#039;s education is sacrificed; girls become more vulnerable to domestic violence and are weakened by early pregnancies; and babies born to girls under 17 are 60 percent are more likely to die during their first year of life. Unicef describes child marriage as a &quot;gross violation of all categories of child rights.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for the women NGOs..well i guess they are doing their best..but its the lack of support that they are receiving from the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sourin : There are no excat stats..that i cud find. However this is what i read in an article&#8230;</p>
<p>Statistics are elusive, but estimates are that 40 to 50 percent of marriages in India involve a girl under 18 or a boy under 21, the legal ages for marriage.</p>
<p>According to Unicef, 82 percent of girls in Rajasthan, where the practice is particularly widespread, are married by 18; 15 percent of girls in rural areas across the country are married before 13; and 52 percent of girls have their first pregnancy between 15 and 19.</p>
<p>Child support agencies catalogue the dire consequences that follow early marriage, particularly for girls: The child&#8217;s education is sacrificed; girls become more vulnerable to domestic violence and are weakened by early pregnancies; and babies born to girls under 17 are 60 percent are more likely to die during their first year of life. Unicef describes child marriage as a &#8220;gross violation of all categories of child rights.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the women NGOs..well i guess they are doing their best..but its the lack of support that they are receiving from the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; What shocks me is that the reason often given in support of child marriages, is that it protect the girl from other men who, once she is married, may see her as being unavailable and belonging to someone else. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In an lawless village, if a girl is already &quot;married&quot;, a crime against her becomes a crime against two families, not just one. Ofcourse if the criminal is really powerful, he/she can still get away with it. But in an unsecure environment, its still a rational choice. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I dont know about other places, but atleast in Rajasthan, these child marriages are a two stage process. A marriage ceremony followed by a gauna ceremony. The bride does not join the husband and his family until her gauna is done a few years after the marriage. In the meanwhile, her education, vocational training can go on as usual. Sometimes, when the girl or the girls family outstrips the boys&#039; economically in the intervening period, the marriage is annulled - although this is difficult.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&gt;&gt; The punishment, a maximum of three months in prison, and a fine is not enough to stop people. Proposed changes include more punishment, a compulsory registration of all marriages rather than just religious rites, the appointment of anti-child marriage officers in every state, and making it a law that anyone who attends a child marriage has to report it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hasnt worked so far, wont work in the future. Its like saying that imposition of a death sentence would bring down incidence of rape. IMO Social change cant be legislated, unless ofcourse, you are an imperial power and rule with an iron fist. It has to be gradual, and has to involve the communities in question. Perhaps starting with the introduction of the concept of gauna where its not there, and introducing communitywide minimum ages for gauna and so on. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sudeep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> What shocks me is that the reason often given in support of child marriages, is that it protect the girl from other men who, once she is married, may see her as being unavailable and belonging to someone else. </p>
<p>In an lawless village, if a girl is already &#8220;married&#8221;, a crime against her becomes a crime against two families, not just one. Ofcourse if the criminal is really powerful, he/she can still get away with it. But in an unsecure environment, its still a rational choice. </p>
<p>I dont know about other places, but atleast in Rajasthan, these child marriages are a two stage process. A marriage ceremony followed by a gauna ceremony. The bride does not join the husband and his family until her gauna is done a few years after the marriage. In the meanwhile, her education, vocational training can go on as usual. Sometimes, when the girl or the girls family outstrips the boys&#8217; economically in the intervening period, the marriage is annulled &#8211; although this is difficult.</p>
<p>>> The punishment, a maximum of three months in prison, and a fine is not enough to stop people. Proposed changes include more punishment, a compulsory registration of all marriages rather than just religious rites, the appointment of anti-child marriage officers in every state, and making it a law that anyone who attends a child marriage has to report it.</p>
<p>Hasnt worked so far, wont work in the future. Its like saying that imposition of a death sentence would bring down incidence of rape. IMO Social change cant be legislated, unless ofcourse, you are an imperial power and rule with an iron fist. It has to be gradual, and has to involve the communities in question. Perhaps starting with the introduction of the concept of gauna where its not there, and introducing communitywide minimum ages for gauna and so on. </p>
<p>Sudeep</p>
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